[comp.music] missing fundamentals

ccc_ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) (08/07/90)

I have personally experienced an even more extreme case of the
"missing fundamentals" effect. I was playing around with a Yamaha
electronic organ one day, trying different mixes of 8', 4' and
2-2/3' flute sounds. It got to the point where I'd turned off
the 8' (fundamental) completely, and I was still hearing the tune
playing at the same pitch! Next I turned off the 4' as well
(leaving just the 2-2/3') and I could still hear the tune
playing at its original pitch. As far as my ear was concerned,
it was just an extreme version of the timbre you get with
a mix of 8' and 2-2/3'.

I didn't try 1-3/5', but I suspect that with a bit of effort,
I could have done it. I think things would get harder as the
harmonic ratios involve higher and higher prime factors.

I guess what this means is that, if you're in the right frame of
mind, you can hear almost anything...

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jgk@osc.COM (Joe Keane) (08/09/90)

The same thing happens with pitch shifters.  If you listen to a guitar with a
note added one octave below, it often sounds like only the lower note is
playing.  You essentially lose the original note, although it does modify the
timbre.  With a two-octave shift, it sounds like two separate notes.  This can
be changed by the amount of distortion.