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Music-Research Digest Tue, 21 Aug 90 Volume 5 : Issue 76 Today's Topics: Categories of Musicological Analysis Degree Granting Institutions in Computer Music (2 msgs) low-cost score editors Musicology in Music Research still alive! Trading Music *** Send contributions to Music-Research@uk.ac.oxford.prg *** Send administrative requests to Music-Research-Request *** Overseas users should reverse UK addresses and give gateway if necessary *** e.g. Music-Research@prg.oxford.ac.uk *** or Music-Research%prg.oxford.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk *** Back issues, index, etc.: send "help" in a message to archive-server *** @uk.ac.oxford.prg (in the UK) or @bartok.sun.com (elsewhere) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 18 Aug 90 17:02:44 GMT From: "Mr. P. H. Smith" <mrsmith%rice-chex%ai-lab%snorkelwacker@edu.ohio-state.cis.tut> Subject: Categories of Musicological Analysis To: music-research@prg Message-ID: <9956@life.ai.mit.edu> Before I respond I must say that I clearly indicated that I was proposing categories of "musicological analysis." I DO NOT consider these to be exhaustive of all categories of musical research of any kind. I have written more about this in another posting below [Musicology and Music Research] The first category of musicological analysis I had proposed was 1. Primary Sound (any sound or silence without rhythm, melody, harmony, or lyrics, but with choate musical value) lseltzer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Linda Ann Seltzer) responded: The main problem with this categorization is that is has an inheretly Western musical bias. I.E., the category of "primary sound" seems be a catch-all for any sound that doesn't follow traditional Western musical procedures. ... Do you think that "rhythm, melody, harmony, and lyrics" are "Western musical procedures?" I don't, and I don't think any non-western musician would agree with you, if you arrogantly claim that rhythm, melody, harmony, and lyrics are Western musical procedures. Primary sound without any of the other elements is as rare in Asian and African music as it is in Western music. So, I guess I still cannot see the Western Bias you're talking about. Please explain in more detail the other categories that I left out that do not have this Western Bias. You also claim that Musicological analysis usually starts with a reference to who produces the music, rather than to the acoustics of individual phrases and sounds. First, I did not mention anything about acoustics - which I think is nowhere to be found in musicological analysis. Primary sound, as I indicated, has to have "choate musical value." Where did you find acoustics? And I don't agree that musicological analysis "usually starts with a reference to who produces the music." I mean, how many articles about Schubert songs begin by saying, "Dietrich Fischer Diskau produced this music, and now I am going to analyze it thus..." Apparently you also think that lyrics as I defined it is too narrow. You suggest calling this relationship of music to text (rather than "lyrics", a word which assumes certain composition processes which might not occur in certain types of music, such as improvised Indian ragas where syllables are insterspersed with words). But you will shoot yourself in the foot with this one because the word "text" means just what we all think it means (i.e., the wording, usually printed or written, of an author's utterance). You must understand, therefore, that text can never be a musical element. I defined lyrics as a "verbal and semantic overlay" on rhythm, melody, harmony, or primary sound precisely to avoid "text," which, as a word, usually does not have anything to do with music. Lyrics (of the lyre) almost always does. The key is VERBAL. Text is never verbal, lyrics usually are (only when they're written, they're a text). I also prefer lyrics because it has always been used - since antiquity - to have something to do with music. Anyway, you have correctly identified the nebulous boundary between lyrics and primary sound by bringing up the example of improvised, non-semantic syllables. Indeed, the boundaries between all of these categories are overlapping, but I have tried to define them as distinct AND to show their interrelationship. The reason I gave a definition of the word lyrics is because the one I understand to be common is not precise enough in this case. So please recognize that I have redefined the term and not mentioned anything at all about *how* music manages to get a lyric overlay in a particular instance (i.e., it does not matter whether someone first wrote down the lyrics, or whether they are just now making them up. The end result is the same: a semantic and verbal overlay. BTW, according to Webster's lyrics are "the words of a song, as distinguished from the music." I think that this is incorrect. The lyrics are as much a part of the music as the rhythm and melody. Moreover, as you and I pointed out, lyrics need not be limited to words. But, when you say If one desires to examine music in relation to text, one may also cross interdisciplinary boundaries by examining the relationship of music to visual art, theater, and dance I must agree. But you should realize that I have not suggested examining music in relation to text. I have suggested only that lyrics is a category of musicological analysis because it is understood to be part of music. The way you construe it, I get the impression that music and text are to be understood in their traditional meaning (i.e., mutually exclusive). If you don't mean this, then don't use the word text and don't say "music in relation to text" where text is something not music. Finally, you have also misunderstood the sixth category, corpographics. You say Your sixth category seemed to combine architectural acoustics and theater That term I chose carefully (it was invented by Gerald Otte, a choreographer), but I perhaps misled you with my examples. I said that corpographics, as a category of musicological analysis, includes the staging and visual presentation in all of its aspects - i.e., is the music in a church, a stadium, in headphones, etc. I could not list everything here like, are the musicians wearing anything? Are they dressed like waiters? Is there an obvious leader? Are they moving or sitting or both? ... Is the music outside, amplified, drunk, on a CD player, imagined? Is the listener lying down, sitting, eating, dancing, praying? You get my drift. I did not mean just "architectural acoustics" (again you put acoustics in there. Where do you keep finding that?) If you think these things have no place in musicological analysis, you will have anyone who believes that opera is music, Christopher Hogwash and the period performance people, and ethnomusicologists shaking their heads in disagreement. Paul Smith mrsmith@ai.mit.edu ------------------------------ Date: 20 Aug 90 08:33:25 GMT From: Douglas Terrebonne <dougt%zorch%vsi1%daver%mips%sdd.hp.com@edu.ucsd> Subject: Degree Granting Institutions in Computer Music To: music-research@prg Message-ID: <1990Aug20.083325.4084@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> I am now attending Cogswell Polytechnica; College in Cupertino, CA. It is one of the few places to offer a BS in Music Engineering Technology. Doug ------------------------------ Date: 20 Aug 90 17:31:31 GMT From: Michael Rose <rose%crdgw1@net.uu.uunet> Subject: Degree Granting Institutions in Computer Music To: music-research@prg Message-ID: <ROSE.90Aug20133132@bullwinkle.crd.ge.com> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute has begun a Master of Fine Arts program in Electronic Arts. The program in headed by Neil Rolnick (or the electro-acoustic music side) and John Sturgeon (on the video side). Composition and integration of media is stressed. Since RPI is primarily an engineering school, there is going to an emphasis on construction and design of unique hardware for these media. If anyone wants further information, write me and I`ll pass along your name to Rolnick and Sturgeon. -- Mike Rose Schenectady, NY Harris Power R&D Center rose@bullwinkle.crd.ge.com (518) 387-6635 ------------------------------ Date: 20 Aug 90 14:33:05 EDT From: "Edward L. Stauff" <EDWARD.STAUFF@com.wang.office> Subject: low-cost score editors To: Music-Research@prg Message-ID: <9008201815.AA15908@sununix.comm.wang.com> Can anyone recommend (or warn against) any low-cost score editors for IBM compatibles? I desperately need one (I can't stand doing it by hand any more), but I don't have several hundred dollars to spend on the likes of Dr. T's or Finale. None of the music (or computer) stores in my area have much of anything for me to try, and nobody seems to have a return policy for music software. I'm considering the Laser Music Processor, but even $100 is a lot of money (for me), and I want to be sure I'll get my money's worth. Has anyone used any of the low-end score editors, or heard anything about them? Better still, is there any shareware or free software score editors out there? Thanks. Ed Stauff Edward.Stauff@OFFICE.Wang.com ------------------------------ Date: 18 Aug 90 17:30:37 GMT From: "Mr. P. H. Smith" <mrsmith%rice-chex%ai-lab%snorkelwacker%usc@edu.ucsd> Subject: Musicology in Music Research To: music-research@prg Message-ID: <9957@life.ai.mit.edu> Perhaps this will show y'all just what I mean by "musicological analysis" and maybe even convey to you what I think is the relationship between musicology and the other branches of musical research. Please remember that the categories of musicological analysis I proposed are not intended to encompass all musical research. That's why I call them categories of *musicological* analysis. Musicology is more confused than all-encompassing, as you'll see (but I tried to allow it to be as broad as possible). Musicology is most frequently defined quite broadly as the study of music, as the term implies. Often musicological study is distinguished from the practice of music, following a very old tradition going back to Antiquity. The Oxford Dictionary of Music (1985) says: "Musicology -- Music scholarship. A 20th-cent. word taken into the Eng. language (from the Fr. Musicologie), but the Ger. term Musikwissenschaft was coined by J. B. Logier in 1827. It may be said to cover all study of musicother than that directed to proficiency in perf. or comp. Thus, a musicologist is one who is a specialist in some mus. study." The breadth of the field is also expressed in this definition, which lists the following as the domains of musicological research: "acoustics, physiology of the v[oice], ear and hand; psychology of aesthetics, and of music appreciation and education; ethnology so far as it bears on music; rhythm and metrics; modes and scales; the principles and development of instrs.; orchestration; form; theories of harmony; the history of mus.; the bibliography of mus.; terminology -- and so forth." What I dislike about this definition of musicology is that there is no attempt to provide a framework for the various divisions. Under what circumstances, for example, is the physiology of the hand a musicological problem? It seems that what counts as a musicological problem is *anything* anyone wants, and with no logical connection to any of the other divisions. The "and so forth" merely underscores this lack of organization. The Harvard Dictionary of Music (1986) clearly shows the confusion *among musicologists* about just what musicology is. First, musicology is defined in the broadest possible terms: "Musicology -- The scholarly study of music, wherever it is found historically or geographically. The methods of musicology are any that prove fruitful with respect to the particular subject of study." According to the Harvard Dictionary even the methods of musicology are boundless. However, there is a contradiction between the definition of musicology and the actual domain of musicological investigation. Musicology as it is practiced is the study of a select number of musical works which are judged to be aesthetically significant and which have European progeny. The Harvard Dictionary says as much as its definition continues: "The great majority of scholars who describe themselves as musicologists (as distinct from ethnomusicologists) are students of Western art music." But, lest you think I am naive to rely on dictionary definitions to define a field which is dynamic and in flux, let's contrast these definitions of musicology with the actual content of the dictionaries in which they appear. Then we can see, statistically, just what musicologists think their field is concerned with. As expected, in the Oxford Dictionary of Music, for example, the statistical breakdown of entries by nationality and historical periiod shows that musicology is concerned with Western European music of the past 200 years more than anything else. The breakdown is - 65% = USA and Western Europe. 35% = All the other countries of the world. Chronologically, the breakdown is - 0-1000 AD = 0.5% 1000-1400 = 0.67 1400-1600 = 5.6 1600-1780 = 16.5 1780-1910 = 27 1910-1985 = 49.2 (I arrived at these by tabulating the entries on every tenth page in the dictionary.) These dictionaries, if taken as collections of what is considered important for musicology, hardly approach the breadth suggested in their definitions of musicology. This is fine with me. I just would like to articulate and organize the *actual* field of musicological research in a logical way. I don't think anyone has done that since Guido Adler defined the field way back in the 1880s. The world of music has changed a lot since then. The Four Main Divisions of All Musical Research Okay, here is what I think are the broadest possible categories of musical research and the place musicology seems to have among them. These are the four big honeys of music specialists (I know there are others, but they are trivial): 1. The largest and most comprehensive domain must be psycho-acoustics. This field is concerned with the interaction of sound with any bio-physical organism. Naturally, psycho-acoustics includes all sounds (language, noise, music, etc.) whether they are real or imagined. It is by no means only concerned with music, no matter how it may be defined. Moreover, psycho-acoustics is not limited to the study of human beings. It can just as easily address itself to frogs, lizards, and trees -- and often does! As the term psycho-acoustics suggests, the methods of psychology and acoustics predominate in this field. In psycho-acoustics any sound, whether it is part of the most sublime music or the most excruciating noise, can be the object of study. This is not to suggest that musicological research is a subset of psycho-acoustics in a methodological sense. We are simply describing the domains of musical research. And, since psycho-acoustics treats issues in music and "non"-music its domain is necessarily larger than whatever the domain of musicology might be. 2. Nearly as important, and nearly as all-encompassing as psycho-acoustics is an area which we may call (with some regrets) "musico-paideics" That is, the educatory process of music, usually understood in its political, sexological, and moral sense. (Perhaps the Greek term "Euterpics" would have covered the same concepts.) Anyway, music education, in its most generic aspect around the world, is little concerned with musicological analysis and not at all with comparative analysis. Mostly, one learns the Christmas carols, the proper dance steps for a marriage or similar public event, the national anthem, and the like. This second branch of the field of musical study includes all general musical education (the effect of music on the citizens of a state, the use of music in schools and in other sociological contexts, the pedagogics of music, etc.). 3. Today a *vitally* important area of musical research is the "comparative" analysis of just these confusing customs, habits and sometimes xenophobic practices. We call this area "ethnomusicology," at least in English, and at least since the first half of this century. I think the term itself is grandiose and silly, but again, this field of research is extremely important, no matter what you call it. 4. This brings us finally to the morphemic analysis of a selected number of acknowledged, musically venerate works in whatever culture. As a meaningful aspect of musical study this is frequently only called analysis, but it is also sometimes called text analysis, or musicological analysis. This aspect is perhaps the most important component of scholarly musical study as it exists in Western universities. I think that even when musicologists write about "reception" and "historical influences" they have in mind the reception of *famous Western art music* and the historical influence on same. I hope all this helps clarify my thoughts to y'all. Paul Smith mrsmith@ai.mit.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 90 12:25:18 GMT From: Bernard Bel <BEL@EARN.FRMOP11> Subject: still alive! To: music-research@prg There has been a rumour in Europe according to which the MAI Conference in Marseille (3-6 October) would have been cancelled. Certainly not... We are editing around 400 pages of communications and we look forward a large participation. This is also an opportunity to recall the ICTM meeting on "Transcription of Traditional Music" which will be held in Marseille on 29-30 September. E-mail info, hotel reservation, etc., is available from me. Bernard Bel ------------------------------ Date: 20 Aug 90 14:17:18 EDT From: Steve Boylan <STEVE.BOYLAN@com.wang.office> Subject: Trading Music To: music-research@prg, music-research@prg, music-research@prg Message-ID: <9008201759.AA15858@sununix.comm.wang.com> A recent private exchange about sharing music over the Internet led to a question . . . and I thought there might be some answers out there in the networked world at large. The basic question is, how can we exchange music via electronic mail networks? My interest goes beyond sharing just the words. I'd like to be able to trade melodies as well. Ideally, what the recipient should see in the end is music expressed (as well as possible) in the familiar staff notation. I am not very concerned about how to exchange exotic notation for unusual purposes - my interest is in sending and receiving the melody, harmony, and lyrics of straightforward musical pieces, along with such minimal adornments as chords for accompanists. Are there, at present, any widely-used protocols for encoding music for electronic transmission? All I have been able to dig up so far is "Standard MIDI Files", which (in the standard form) only contain the note commands of the MIDI interface. That's a long way from trying to encode even a simple song. If nobody can suggest an exisiting protocol . . . what do YOU think such a protocol should look like? I am posting this message to a number of lists where I've seen electronics and music discussed together, to see who might be interested in this discussion. Further exchanges will be limited to electronic music lists and my own list of respondents. If you'd like to learn if I find anything, just let me know. My normal Internet address is: Steve.Boylan@office.wang.com Wish me luck . . . ------------------------------ End of Music-Research Digest