sams@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (11/10/90)
Hello??? Is there anybody... Out there? Does anybody out there run AOS??? It can't be that bad... I was hoping that someone might know of a C compiler for AOS/VS that can be found off the network. Any replies about anything would be appreciated! Thanks, Steve Michnick
acbhour@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Rudi van Houten) (11/12/90)
In article <26645.273aed1f@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> sams@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: >Hello??? > Is there anybody... Out there? > Does anybody out there run AOS??? It can't be that bad... >I was hoping that someone might know of a C compiler for AOS/VS that can be >found off the network. Any replies about anything would be appreciated! > Thanks, > Steve Michnick Data General does have a C-compiler. Originally written for MV/UX it is for several years now distributed as a product under AOS/VS. -- Rudi van Houten <acbhour@cc.ruu.nl> Academisch Computer Centrum Utrecht / Besturings Systemen Budapestlaan 8 - 3584 CD - Utrecht - Netherlands Tel: +31 30 531731 Fax: +31 30 531633
poy@spsd.IRVINE.DG.COM (David Poyourow) (11/13/90)
] Hello??? ] Is there anybody... Out there? ] ] Does anybody out there run AOS??? It can't be that bad... ] I was hoping that someone might know of a C compiler for AOS/VS that can be ] found off the network. Any replies about anything would be appreciated! ] ] Thanks, ] Steve Michnick ] Sorry, Steve, but you will probably have to get a license and buy it from Data General. I dont know what you are developing, but for a proprietary architecture, you should really have a compiler supported by the manufacturer. I suggest that you call your local D.G. sales office and find out what it costs for an educational institution. -- David Poyourow, Data General Corp. UUCP: ..!uunet!spsd!poy 2603 Main St, #360, Irvine, CA 92714 ARPA: poy@spsd.IRVINE.DG.COM 714-250-6006 or poy@fiuggi.IRVINE.DG.COM "Soon the whole world will be free and everyone will be able to choose between Pepsi and Coke."
meissner@osf.org (Michael Meissner) (11/13/90)
In article <931@accucx.cc.ruu.nl> acbhour@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Rudi van Houten) writes: | Data General does have a C-compiler. Originally written for MV/UX it | is for several years now distributed as a product under AOS/VS. Um, you got it backwards. The C compiler was originally targeted for AOS/VS (and producing binaries to run on AOS/RT32). The first revision, 1.10, shipped something like one year (possibly more, my memory is fuzzy) before MV/UX shipped. The runtime library is a subset of the MV/UX unix emulator, and about 1/2 of the AOS/VS library was developed by the MV/UX group. About two years after that, DG/UX was shipped on MV's, using the compiler ported from AOS/VS. The stdio, allocation, initialization, and math routines all share code with the AOS/VS implementation, the rest of the routines all are based on the appropriate UNIX base. The 'kernel' of MV/UX is still AOS/VS, since MV/UX is a UNIX system call translator (ie, it doesn't provide it's own scheduling or process management). At one point in time, there was a project to produce a cross compiler from AOS/VS to 16-bit AOS, but it never made it out of DG. In terms of 16-bit compiler support, there was a company called 'IPT' which sold a compiler for RDOS and AOS systems. DG/UX on the 88k's uses a completely different compiler (from the GNU project), and the libraries are based solely on the UNIX source base. I believe the 88k kernel code started with the MV kernel code, but since I never worked on the kernel, I can't say for sure. Since I wrote the front end for the MV C compiler, and worked on it until revision 4.00, and then worked on the GNU compiler for Data General, so in theory, I should know what I'm talking about. -- Michael Meissner email: meissner@osf.org phone: 617-621-8861 Open Software Foundation, 11 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA, 02142 Considering the flames and intolerance, shouldn't USENET be spelled ABUSENET?
bkd3019@rouge.usl.edu (Dore Brian K) (11/14/90)
In article <26645.273aed1f@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> sams@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: >Hello??? > Is there anybody... Out there? > > Does anybody out there run AOS??? It can't be that bad... >I was hoping that someone might know of a C compiler for AOS/VS that can be >found off the network. Any replies about anything would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > Steve Michnick If you want a C compiler for AOS/VS, you are probably going to have to pay for it. Check DG Review & the NADGUG newsletter for third party compilers. I believe DG Review runs a 800 number to supply readers with free help locating products, (Telesearch?) you may want to check there. I left a AOS/VS shop in February of this year after almost five years with AOS/VS and Buisiness Basic. (and 2 months of RDOS!) Every now and then while trying to do too many things at once, my fingers will type f/as or something totaly alien to my current enviornment. Anyone care to update me on the current status of AOS/VS classic vs II, and what versions are current? I haven't bothered to keep up.
pds@lemming.webo.dg.com (Paul D. Smith) (11/14/90)
[ discussion of the history of DG AOS/VS C compiler removed ... *I* thought it was interesting ... ] I think the original poster of this message was looking for a C compiler for AOS/VS which could be found on the net; i.e., _free_, like say a port of GCC to AOS/VS. Steve: I personally have never heard of such a beast, if that is indeed what you are interested in. The DG AOS/VS C compiler is a nice product; it has function call libraries to take advantage of AOS/VS's CISC architecture: for example, a multi-tasking library, special in-line functions for queue handling, etc. Get in touch with your DG rep (or whomever) for more info on the DG C compiler. -- paul ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Paul D. Smith | pds@lemming.webo.dg.com | | Data General Corp. | | | Network Services Development | "Pretty Damn S..." | | Open Network Applications Department | | ------------------------------------------------------------------
sasrer@unx.sas.com (Rodney Radford) (11/29/90)
In article <26645.273aed1f@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> sams@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: >Hello??? > Is there anybody... Out there? > Yes. (Been listening to any Pink Floyd's 'The Wall' lately?). > Does anybody out there run AOS??? It can't be that bad... >I was hoping that someone might know of a C compiler for AOS/VS that can be >found off the network. Any replies about anything would be appreciated! There are several public domain C compilers that could be converted for the MV architecture, but you will have to write your own back-end code generator (with only 4 wonderful registers). Two common public domain compilers are the Gnu and Small-C compilers, but I don't know if either of these has ever been ported to an MV. We do all of our code development at SAS Institute in C - current estimate is about 2+ million lines of code, and use DG's C compiler. Except for a few minor problems (which are usually fixed very rapidly by DG), and code generation inefficiencies it is pretty good. > > Thanks, > Steve Michnick -- Rodney E. Radford SAS Institute, Inc. sasrer@unx.sas.com DG/UX AViiON developer Box 8000, Cary, NC 27512 (919) 677-8000 x7703