[comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains] Zone transfers for "."

linegar@bwdls49.bnr.ca (Derick Linegar) (06/14/91)

Question:

	In setting up a "lab" DNS system that mimics the Internet,
	we've come to the argument where one sides insist that
	zone transfers *do not* work for the root domain. Is this
	true? How does the root servers keep things in sync? Wouldn't
	it be a waste not to use zone transfers for root and use it
	everywhere else?


				-derick-

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barrett@Daisy.EE.UND.AC.ZA (Alan P Barrett) (06/18/91)

In article <linegar.676842236@bwdls49>,
linegar@bwdls49.bnr.ca (Derick Linegar) writes:
>     In setting up a "lab" DNS system that mimics the Internet,
>     we've come to the argument where one sides insist that
>     zone transfers *do not* work for the root domain. Is this
>     true? How does the root servers keep things in sync? Wouldn't
>     it be a waste not to use zone transfers for root and use it
>     everywhere else?

Among Berkeley bind 4.8.1's problems is that it makes a total mess of
root zone transfers.  I hear that bind 4.8.3 has the same problem with
root zones, but I haven't seen the code myself.  (I guess the real root
servers don't run Berkeley bind?)

Shout if you want my patches to bind 4.8.1 to make it do root zone
transfers correctly.

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andy@calvin.VF.GE.COM (Andy Hazeltine) (06/22/91)

In article <1991Jun17.220952.1807@Daisy.EE.UND.AC.ZA>, barrett@Daisy.EE.UND.AC.ZA (Alan P Barrett) writes:
|> In article <linegar.676842236@bwdls49>,
|> linegar@bwdls49.bnr.ca (Derick Linegar) writes:
|> >     In setting up a "lab" DNS system that mimics the Internet,
|> >     we've come to the argument where one sides insist that
|> >     zone transfers *do not* work for the root domain. Is this
|> >     true? How does the root servers keep things in sync? Wouldn't
|> >     it be a waste not to use zone transfers for root and use it
|> >     everywhere else?
|> 
|> Among Berkeley bind 4.8.1's problems is that it makes a total mess of
|> root zone transfers.  I hear that bind 4.8.3 has the same problem with
|> root zones, but I haven't seen the code myself.  (I guess the real root
|> servers don't run Berkeley bind?)
|> 

Bind 4.8.3 does have the same problem.  I have taken Alan Barrett's patches
for 4.8.1 and adapted them to work for plain 4.8.3.  They don't work, however,
with Don Lewis's patches to detect and log lame delegations, etc.

I am using bind 4.8.3 with my patches successfully to run a set of name
servers for our internal network which does not directly connect to the
Internet.

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