U23379@UICVM.BITNET (Henry Young 312-413-3626) (11/10/89)
ok. Maybe no one else can. But I tried FTP here at UICVM and it connects. Sometimes the session gets closed, and other times there are too many anonymous users to log on. heres a log: Ready; T=0.01/0.01 15:57:33 gd telnet The TELNET minidisk RR at 503 P has been freed The TELNET minidisk is now attached RR as 503 P Ready; T=0.05/0.09 15:57:40 ftp wsmr-simtel20.army.mil VM TCP/IP FTP R1.2 Connecting to WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL 26.2.0.74, port 21 220 WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL FTP Server Process 5Z(65)-7 at Thu 9-Nov-89 14:58-MST USER (identify yourself to the host): anonymous >>>USER anonymous 331 ANONYMOUS user ok, send real ident as password. Password: >>>PASS ******** 421-Too many ANONYMOUS users at the moment. 421 Please try again later. Command: quit >>>QUIT rConnection with WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL terminated Ready; T=0.06/0.20 15:58:34 stoplog di - Henry -
S087891@UMRVMA.BITNET (Mike Castle) (11/10/89)
Ok, now I understand. I've never know this as FTP before, just TELNET.
Different colloqualisms (sp?) I guess. So, do these guys mind us
accessing this information at all, or is it free for everybody to use?
I just don't want to do something that will get me in trouble.
Tanx again,
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**********************************U23379@UICVM.BITNET (Henry Young 312-413-3626) (11/10/89)
Ah, sorry if that sounded snyd. It is possible that our version of FTP has
been modified to work thru another server. We have many other systems here at
our campus. I do know that if that is the case, then it is transparent to me.
I am not in Networking, thus I can't say it is or isn't so. But it may be
possible for other bitnet sites to be able to use FTP to connect to White Sands
I guess that would be system dependent. All I meant to say is that it is NOT
absolutely true that bitnet sites can't reach it.
I can say, it is difficult to get a session to it, it always seems to have too
many users (anonymous). I can get a connection only 1/5 of the time.
- Henry -VALDIS@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Valdis Kletnieks) (11/10/89)
OK.. What we're seeing here is a user at a site (UICVM) who is on both
BItnet and the Internet. FTP and Telnet will work if you're on the
Internet. There is no conflict with being on both - just like you can
have a VTAM network and also have an RSCS network, you just 'wear
different hats' depending on which side you're talking to. In fact, at
least 500 of the 3,043 nodes on Bitnet are also on the Internet.
For the uninitiated:
FTP is File Transfer Protocol, a way to ship files around (like SENDFILE).
Telnet is a remote login scheme (akin to PASSTHRU).
Now, back to assembly language - does anybody have favorite 'non-obvious'
uses of instructions? I mean stuff like pointing a STOSM and STNSM at each
other to mask critical code...
Valdis Kletnieks
Virginia TechASPRMH@UOFT01.BITNET (Rob Hamilton) (11/10/89)
WHOA!!! Tell us just a little more about STOSM and STNSM!! That sounded rather useful. When it comes to less-than-pedestrian uses of instructions, I haven't found many things other than using TR to find the last non-blank character in a string, and using BXLE R1,R3,*+4 for juggling registers. Also, I'm one of those who can read the PrincOps dozens of times, and still not understand CS and CDS. Can anyone shed more light??? Some examples maybe??? Maybe you should wait; in a few years I will be willing to PAY LOTS for this information...... R;