BILLBIRD@PORTLAND.BITNET ("William W. Bird") (12/18/87)
Rather than send out individual mails to all who helped, you know
who you are, thanks much for the notes/suggestions/files dealing
with the 3270 Data streams. I used what was given to me for info
and it helped alot, my project is moving along now as I wished..
Thanks again folks, Ill return the help whenever I can...
BillFERZAN@TREARN.BITNET (05/16/91)
Can anyone tell me what should I do to write an
IBM 3270 emulation on PC ? Which manuals must I have ?
Thanks for your help ..
-orhan-OPTS@CSEARN.BITNET (Smolik) (05/17/91)
I think, that you need this manual probably.
IBM 3270 Information Display System Component Descpription
T. Smolikklassen@SOL.UVIC.CA (Melvin Klassen) (05/17/91)
In article <9105160748.AA14752@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> you write: > > Can anyone tell me what should I do to write an > IBM 3270 emulation on PC ? Which manuals must I have ? > Starting with a working emulation. For example, get the "Clarkson University TCP Communications Package" (using "anonymous-FTP") from 'OMNIGATE.Clarkson.EDU'. Or, use the KERMIT package, which does VT-100 emulation, and connect to an IBM 7171 or IBM 3172 (which does VT-100_to_IBM_3270 protocol conversion).
terry@uts.amdahl.com (Lewis T. Flynn) (05/21/91)
In article <9105160748.AA14752@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> IBM 370 Assembly Programming Discussion List <ASM370@OHSTVMA.BITNET> writes: > > Can anyone tell me what should I do to write an > IBM 3270 emulation on PC ? Which manuals must I have ? The single most important manual is the 3174 control unit manual. I'd be more explicit as to title, order number, etc., but I don't have one handy. The KWIC index should be able to help there though. It has all the various sequences you will need to handle as well as describing the various choices for connecting. In general, though, I'd advise you to think twice about this. In order to connect as a 3270 to a system, you will need some hardware either an IRMA card equivalent for local connection or an sdlc/bisynch card for "remote" (remote by 3270 definition). Then you'll have to do all the esoteric programming necessary to look like a control unit in that environment and only then can you write the terminal code. I guess you could use a token ring card and go in through a 3174, but I know less about that interface. The 3174 manual should cover it, though. If you don't need any of these things, then you're dealing with a case where someone has already done most of the hard work and you need to investigate it more fully. Most existing emulations are one of five types: a hardware card that makes the PC look like a 3278 (or whatever) to the 3[12]74; a similar arrangement except the PC looks like a remote control unit and in connected to the front end box (a 3745 or something); the PC connects to a box (either by ascii async or by local net) which in turn looks like a 3174 to the host (either by channel attachment or as a remote); and the PC connects to the host by whatever means and software in the host does the conversion there. A possible addition to these is tn3270 emulation. It's my understanding that there is some knowledge on the host side (which would lump it under the fourth category), but I could be completely wrong. If you're unfamiliar with this, it's a form of telnet except the session appears as a 3270 to the application. This is all a bit vaguer than I'd like, but it's been a while since I did any of this. Terry
terry@AMES.ARC.NASA.GOV ("Lewis T. Flynn") (05/21/91)
In article <9105160748.AA14752@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> IBM 370 Assembly Programming Discussion List <ASM370@OHSTVMA.BITNET> writes: > > Can anyone tell me what should I do to write an > IBM 3270 emulation on PC ? Which manuals must I have ? The single most important manual is the 3174 control unit manual. I'd be more explicit as to title, order number, etc., but I don't have one handy. The KWIC index should be able to help there though. It has all the various sequences you will need to handle as well as describing the various choices for connecting. In general, though, I'd advise you to think twice about this. In order to connect as a 3270 to a system, you will need some hardware either an IRMA card equivalent for local connection or an sdlc/bisynch card for "remote" (remote by 3270 definition). Then you'll have to do all the esoteric programming necessary to look like a control unit in that environment and only then can you write the terminal code. I guess you could use a token ring card and go in through a 3174, but I know less about that interface. The 3174 manual should cover it, though. If you don't need any of these things, then you're dealing with a case where someone has already done most of the hard work and you need to investigate it more fully. Most existing emulations are one of five types: a hardware card that makes the PC look like a 3278 (or whatever) to the 3[12]74; a similar arrangement except the PC looks like a remote control unit and in connected to the front end box (a 3745 or something); the PC connects to a box (either by ascii async or by local net) which in turn looks like a 3174 to the host (either by channel attachment or as a remote); and the PC connects to the host by whatever means and software in the host does the conversion there. A possible addition to these is tn3270 emulation. It's my understanding that there is some knowledge on the host side (which would lump it under the fourth category), but I could be completely wrong. If you're unfamiliar with this, it's a form of telnet except the session appears as a 3270 to the application. This is all a bit vaguer than I'd like, but it's been a while since I did any of this. Terry
FERZAN@TREARN.BITNET (05/23/91)
I have been using PC3270, Workstation, Myte emulation
programs,
In addition to, I seems non IBM product emulators in PC and
Amiga, Vax ect. computers .. and I want to write my emulator ..
My connections are: 3278/3279 Emulation Adaptor,
SDLC adaptor, and extra tokin ring network adaptor,
First I think that I must relate local connection
bitween PC (CUT terminal) and 3174 (or 3274) control unit,
I meen, I need full info about this terminal-CU
3270 data streams ..
Recognize you any emulation program author ? Or can you
tell me any 3270 manual name ?
Thank you for your helps,
-ohan-