[news.software.nntp] users are not notified of new local newsgroups

dcox@ssd.kodak.com (Don Cox (253-7121)) (11/11/90)

I created a new group to be used just within my department using the
command 'addgroup ispd.general y'.  The group was created properly, but
no one is alerted to the fact that the group was created when they
call up rn.  Whenever a new group is established on the net I am
questioned whether or not I want to subscribe to it, why wasn't I 
asked for the local group?

I am running the latest version of C News on a Sun4/260 running SunOS4.0.3.

Thanks.
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stealth@caen.engin.umich.edu (Mike Pelletier) (11/15/90)

In article <1990Nov10.215424.27362@ssd.kodak.com>
	dcox@ssd.kodak.com (Don Cox (253-7121)) writes:
>
>I created a new group to be used just within my department using the
>command 'addgroup ispd.general y'.  The group was created properly, but
>no one is alerted to the fact that the group was created when they
>call up rn.  Whenever a new group is established on the net I am
>questioned whether or not I want to subscribe to it, why wasn't I 
>asked for the local group?
>

The problem lies with rn's mechanism for determining whether a newsgroup
is new or not.  From what I can figure out, it seems to look to see if 
one article has been posted to it, and if it has, then it offers it to
you.  If nothing has been posted or if dozens of articles have been posted,
it won't ask you.  With NNTP, it would be a snap to use the newgroups
command, but I think rn has more to worry about than that...

This flaw is one reason I was spared an offer to subscribe to
alt.tv.twin-peaks, since it had a good number of articles in it when
rn first checked on it for me.
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sob@tmc.edu (Stan Barber) (11/15/90)

rn (with patch level 48) will now detect new newsgroups via NNTP correctly.

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kwthomas@nsslsun.gcn.uoknor.edu (Kevin W. Thomas) (11/16/90)

In article <1990Nov14.200204.25707@engin.umich.edu> stealth@caen.engin.umich.edu (Mike Pelletier) writes:
>The problem lies with rn's mechanism for determining whether a newsgroup
>is new or not.  From what I can figure out, it seems to look to see if 
>one article has been posted to it, and if it has, then it offers it to
>you.  If nothing has been posted or if dozens of articles have been posted,
>it won't ask you.  With NNTP, it would be a snap to use the newgroups
>command, but I think rn has more to worry about than that...

That is a bug with the "rrn" part of "rn".  The bug is fixed in "rn"
patch 48, posted within the past week.  With the new patch, users may all
of a sudden be notified of hundreds of "new" newsgroups.  The average at
my site was about 200 "new" groups.

	== kwthomas ==