ospwd@mathcs.emory.edu (Peter Day {EUCC}) (11/28/90)
Here is a summary of the replies to my posting: > I'm looking for netnews readers that use nntp. I would prefer ones > that are either freeware or very inexpensive. I need them for > Macintosh, MS-DOS, VMS, and any other OS that you know about. > Please reply directly to me and I will summarize. I got replies for VMS, UNIX and Macintosh, but nothing for the PC. However, I found this on berkeley.edu: /pub/news/nntp/clients/ibm-pc pcrrn.1.tar.Z, pcrrn.2.tar.Z, pcrrn.3.tar.Z I looked at some of it and it appeared to be UNIX source. I am looking for something I can run under DOS. I am not in a position to compile source for a PC. If you think you can do anything with this, I would appreciate your giving it a shot. From aaron@zippy.telcom.arizona.edu Tue Nov 6 10:42:07 1990 For VMS, there are 3, all freeware. ANU News. This is big, loaded with features, very "VMS-y". Wants vast amount of memory. It's the only NNTP server out there for VMS. Somewhat buggy. Written in C. Available in [anon_ftp.anu_v60] from kuhub.cc.ukans.edu. VNEWS. Client only. Tighter 'n' terser than ANU. Written in Fortran. Available from AMARNA.GSFC.NASA.GOV. DXRN. Client only. xrn ported to DECwindows. Needs a X server to display on, of course. Can be found on GATEKEEPER.DEC.COM. P.S. if you locate an NNTP news reader for MS/DOS, can you let me know (or post to the net?) Thx, Aaron Aaron Leonard (AL104), <Leonard@Arizona.EDU> University of Arizona Telecommunications, Tucson AZ 85721 From sfalken@mondo.engin.umich.edu Tue Nov 6 13:16:02 1990 I've written an NNTP client program for Macintosh's with MacTCP. It will be appearing in an article for Apple's "develop" magazine on the CD-ROM. That issue will be coming out in January, so at that time, I'll post the newsreader to the network, with full MPW C source code. Before then, however, I can't legally distribute the program. -Steve Falkenburg Macintosh Support Computer Aided Engineering Network (CAEN) University of Michigan, Ann Arbor sfalken@mondo.engin.umich.edu From phssra Tue Nov 6 13:30:50 1990 Yes, there are several available. One is a free hypercard stack called NetNews Reader, which you can get from apple.apple.com; I think it is in the file pub/dts/mac/stacks/mactcp-toolkit-1-0.hqx There is also a program called Mews which does both netnews and mail. You can get it from sumex-aim.stanford in the files info-mac/card/mews-14-part[12].hqx. Finally, there is a commercial suite of programs called TCP/Connect II from Interlan which also has this ability. I have printed information about that if you are interested. The first two programs, I believe, require the separate-obtained MacTCP, while the third comes supplied with it. .... Scott Anderson phssra@emoryu1 7-4089 From glenn@mathcs.emory.edu Tue Nov 6 17:34:25 1990 Here`s some articles off of news.software.nntp i've saved: In article <5075@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>, glenn@mathcs.emory.edu (Glenn Barry) writes: >Anybody know where we can get a VMS nntp server? NEWSRDR, written by Matt Madison, is available on anonymous FTP from uclapp.physics.ucla.edu [128.97.64.122]. Matt also has it on his system, vms.ecs.rpi.edu (sorry, don't know the IP address). This program uses the CMU-TEK TCP/IP implementation. /----------------------------\ /----------------------------------------\ | John Price | Internet: jprice@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu | | 5-145 Knudsen Hall | BITNET: price@uclaph | | UCLA Dept. of Physics | DECnet: uclapp::jprice | | Los Angeles, CA 90024-1547 | YellNet: 213-825-2259 | \----------------------------/ \----------------------------------------/ >From: mcmahon@ninet9.tgv.com (John McMahon) In article <2518@dino.cs.iastate.edu>, wayne@grafix.iastate.edu (Wayne Hauber) writes... :We've found a version of VNEWS for VMS but would rather offer rn and :have a consistent news interface across a variety of operating systems. : :The question: Is there a port of rn for VMS operating systems? Well I guess you can't please everyone :-) Out of curiosity, have you looked at the latest version of VNEWS (1.3-4) ? Right now, I am aware of three newsreaders for VMS. They are: VNEWS (psuedo-UNIX style interface. Uses NNTP over IP). ANU-NEWS (VMS style interface. Uses everything?). XRN (Port of UNIX XRN, NNTP over DECnet only). I have seen a few mentions of people attempting ports of rn to VMS, but have heard of no successes. John 'Fast-Eddie' McMahon : MCMAHON@TGV.COM : TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TGV, Incorporated : : T GGGGGGG V V 603 Mission Street : HAVK (abha) Gur bayl : T G V V Santa Cruz, California 95060 : bcrengvat flfgrz gb : T G GGGG V V 408-427-4366 or 800-TGV-3440 : or qrfgeblrq ol znvy : T GGGGGGG V Date: 29 Aug 90 13:50:37 GMT References: <2518@dino.cs.iastate.edu> I'm not aware of any rn port, either. I'm packaging up my port of XRn to DECwindows and Motif; when it's available for FTP access I'll be posting here (as well as a few other groups..). Uses TCP/IP or DECnet, requires a workstation. -Rick -- Rick Murphy, WA1SPT/4 Digital Customer Center, Landover, MD Domain: murphy@ufp.dco.dec.com -or- murphy@ufp.enet.dec.com Bang: decwrl!ufp.enet!murphy Ding: (301) 306-2985 Disclaimer: This nonsense came from an AI program written in TECO. Ignore it. Date: 5 Mar 90 04:20:48 GMT Several clients are available, the biggest issue with them is "What version of TCP/IP are you running ?", or are you looking for a DECnet implementation ? The only server I know of is ANU NEWS... check the vmsnet groups for more info. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John "Fast Eddie" McMahon FASTEDDY@DFTNIC.GSFC.NASA.GOV Code 630.4 - Advanced Data Flow Technology Office SDCDCL::FASTEDDY (SPAN) NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, MD (301) 286-2045 "Living a 9600 Baud Lifestyle in a 1200 Baud World" - R.A.J. From glenn@mathcs.emory.edu Tue Nov 6 18:46:34 1990 many other news readers for unix: 1) vnews - old, it's on emory ... it think rn is based on it... i'm not sure of nntp support 2) xrn - x11 based, really nice, uses nntp exclusively ... also has vms support. 3) trn - "threaded rn", very new, tracks subjects nicely, not sure of nntp support (promo included below) 4) nn - fairly new, lets you point and choose articles, not sure of nntp support (promo included below) .... Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 09:44:17 -0600 From: Bill Cramer <iex!cramer@uunet.UU.NET> I know of a few free/share NNTP readers for the Macintosh. Two use HyperCard as a front end ('NetNewsReader' and 'Mews'); the third is a standalone Mac application called 'TheNews'. Mews is available from the standard Mac archives; I *think* you can get NetNewsReader from Apple's FTP site. TheNews should be showing up in comp.binaries.mac in the next week or two (I can mail you a copy directly if you'd like -- I am its author). Bill Cramer {uunet,convex,ntvax}!iex!cramer From madison@mdmvs.ecs.rpi.edu Wed Nov 7 10:02:18 1990 Date: Wed, 07 Nov 1990 10:02:35 EST I can help you with the VMS end of things. There are four NNTP news readers that I know of for VMS: NEWSRDR, VNEWS, the reader that comes with the ANU NEWS package, and XRN. All of these are freely available, and I have attached the VMS free software list (posted regularly to comp.os.vms), which lists all of the above execpt XRN, for which I don't have a source. Hope this helps. .... Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 09:24 EST RN has the capability to use NNTP in a client/server format which allows remote sites to read the news without having to have the actual news files on the remote system. I use it here, and have found it to work quite well. I know that it's available for a wide variety of Unix OS, but have no idea what support it may provide for MS-DOS or other OS. -- Prefered.: elw@netx.com Edwin Wiles Alternate: ...!grebyn!netex!elw NetExpress Inc., Suite 300, Who? Me?!? Responsible!?! Surely You Jest! Vienna, VA, USA 22182 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 16:45:59 PST I've installed numerous readers for UNIX and VMS machines. I'd be very interested in finding out about readers for MACs, MS-DOS machines etc. I assume you know about the various UNIX news readers, so I'll tell you about VMS ones. The main ones I know about are ANU-NEWS and VNEWS. VNEWS is a client nntp reader (written in fortran) and available in both source and execuable savesets. It has a command interface similar to UNIX's rn. It was very easy to setup and use, but doesn't have the flexibility of newer version of rn/nn/trn. It has very little documentation. ANU-News is a full client/server news release from Australian National University. Again, you can get the C source or executable savesets. ANU-NEWS NNTP client service is very easy to setup and supports numerous transport packages (Wollongong tcp/ip, TGV tcp/ip, and even DECNET) The server software is more complex but it does provide some interesting features (such as caching client servers) that are not available in products like b/cnews. ANU-NEWS comes with more documentation than any human being could ever want (remember this is VMS), and is quite well written. Hope this helps. David Perlin dave@tera.com Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 18:06:58 EST From: uarthur!rpcfod@uunet.UU.NET (Robert Patt-Corner) For the Mac, Harry Chesley's netNews Reader, Hypercard, very nice! I'd like very much to know about DOS, very interested in what you hear! Also VMS? . Date: Tue, 13 Nov 90 11:35:54 EST From: uarthur!rpcfod@uunet.UU.NET (Robert Patt-Corner) Good front end for the Mac is Harry Chesley's NetNews Reader. I believe it is in the public domain.
anoosh@mips.COM (Anoosh Hosseini) (11/28/90)
In article <6579@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>, ospwd@mathcs.emory.edu (Peter Day {EUCC}) writes: > > Here is a summary of the replies to my posting: > > > I'm looking for netnews readers that use nntp. I would prefer ones > > that are either freeware or very inexpensive. I need them for > > Macintosh, MS-DOS, VMS, and any other OS that you know about. > > Please reply directly to me and I will summarize. > > I got replies for VMS, UNIX and Macintosh, but nothing for the PC. > However, I found this on berkeley.edu: /pub/news/nntp/clients/ibm-pc > pcrrn.1.tar.Z, pcrrn.2.tar.Z, pcrrn.3.tar.Z I picked up a Microsoft Windows NNTP based news reader a while back from cica.cica.indiana.edu. It is written by Mark Riordan. The package name is WINVN.zip, and at that time it was in directory /pub/pc/win3. I thought it was a pretty nice looking one, though the Poster section of the code had not yet been completed. -anoosh
kjetilo@gollum.uio.no (Kjetil Otter Olsen) (11/28/90)
>Subject: nntp netnews readers -- summary >From: ospwd@mathcs.emory.edu (Peter Day {EUCC}) >Organization: Emory University Information Technology Division >Path: ulrik!nuug!sunic!uupsi!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!emory!ospwd >Reply-To: ospwd@mathcs.emory.edu (Peter Day {EUCC}) >Date: 27 Nov 90 23:50:23 GMT > >Here is a summary of the replies to my posting:
kjetilo@gollum.uio.no (Kjetil Otter Olsen) (11/28/90)
On bcm.tmc.edu in the /nfs directory you will find NEWS and NetNews, two News-programs for PC/MS-DOS. I only know NetNews, and it uses PC-NFS TCP/IP. It uses NNTP to read and post news, and SMTP to send personal answers. On bcm.tmc.edu is is in the file netnews.tar.Z ---- Kjetil Otter Olsen kjetilo@gollum.uio.no University of Oslo, Norway ----