[news.software.nntp] NNTP for VM

uwp@giant.cs.tu-berlin.de (Udo Wolter) (09/25/90)

Hi to all News-Fans !
I'm searching for a NNTP-Package on the Listserver
(if it exists) cause we want to change our configuration
on the VM. We just want to pull all our News from a near
NNTP-Server in our University, so we don't have to hold
any diskspace. Can anybody help me where I can get
such an NNTP-Package (perhaps it's included in a TCP-Package)
with MODULES for use on the VM-machine ?
Thanx for answering !
Greetinx,
                  Udo


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FORDE@vm.poly.edu (03/25/91)

I am looking for a full or almost complete implementation of
NNTP for VM/SP.  I already have a version that only receives
News.  But would like to have one that also acts like a server.

Doug Sewell <DOUG@ysub.ysu.edu> (03/26/91)

In article <91084.105122FORDE@vm.poly.edu>, FORDE@vm.poly.edu says:
>
>I am looking for a full or almost complete implementation of
>NNTP for VM/SP.  I already have a version that only receives
>News.  But would like to have one that also acts like a server.

Good luck.

I've looked at the NNTPRCVR pascal code that works with PSU NetNews
(which is what your site and ours is running).

First, CMS doesn't multi-task.  That's why the NNTPRCVR code has
to keep track of which path a line of data arrived on, and which
output file to write the record to, as well as state information
for each connection.  (FAL 2.X TCP supports IUCV, and GCS - a multi-
tasking OS for VM used to support VTAM - has IUCV support, as well).

Handling multiple connections for news-reading as well - including
retrieving newsgroup information from the GROUP files, pulling individual
articles from the VLIB files to send to the remote clients, and still
fielding the incoming article traffic, would be a significant undertaking -
particularly in Pascal, the standard implementation language for VM TCP
applications (FAL 2.X supports C much better, though).

A better deal is to dedicate a Unix box to news-server support and
come up with a VM NNTP news-reader - there's at least two (I've played
with one of them).  We may wind up going this route down the road - it
looks like we might have a spare Unix box available.  Drop me a line
privately, and I'll send you the e-addresses.

Since the PSU NetNews architecture and VM NNTP support are so different
from what you'll find on Unix systems, you might want to take this up on
bit.listserv.netnws-l.  You might also check out ibm-main and ibmtcp-l
and see the recent traffic about NNTP readers there.

Doug
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gerland@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (James R. Gerland) (03/28/91)

In article <91084.165454DOUG@ysub.ysu.edu>, DOUG@ysub.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) writes...
>In article <91084.105122FORDE@vm.poly.edu>, FORDE@vm.poly.edu says:
>>I am looking for a full or almost complete implementation of
>>NNTP for VM/SP.  I already have a version that only receives
>>News.  But would like to have one that also acts like a server.
> 
>Good luck.
> 
>A better deal is to dedicate a Unix box to news-server support and
>come up with a VM NNTP news-reader - there's at least two (I've played
>with one of them).  

We are doing this now.  Thanks to a utility called NNR, written by Paul
Campbell, from the Mitre Corporation.  NNR is in it's beginning stages
but is a *GREAT!* start.  It allows our CMS users to read and post news
from/to the news database which is stored on one of our Unix boxes.  For
more information contact Paul at NNRPROD@mbvm.mitre.org

NNR is a great solution if you have an available newserver and don't have
the 250+ cylinders available that NETNEWS might require.
Jim...