dcox@ssd.kodak.com (Don Cox (253-7121)) (04/16/91)
Is it possible to send a mail file through inews and have it posted to a newsgroup? The following is a mail message I received: From root Mon Apr 15 16:35:12 1991 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 91 16:35:12 EDT From: root (Super User) To: dcox Subject: meeting notice Don, [text deleted] Suppose I wanted to post this message to kodak.junk. Can inews accept an input that doesn't have Newsgroup in the header? Is there a way that inews can get the Subject field and use that as the Subject for the newsgroup? Thanks much. -- Don Cox Phone (716) 253-7121 KMX (716) 253-7998 INTERNET dcox@ssd.kodak.com
henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) (04/16/91)
In article <1991Apr15.233624.11811@ssd.kodak.com> dcox@ssd.kodak.com (Don Cox (253-7121)) writes: >Is it possible to send a mail file through inews and have it posted >to a newsgroup? ... It's possible but not trivial. News needs more headers (e.g., Newsgroups) and is fussier about the format of headers (e.g., parenthesized comments are allowed in only one or two places). You can't just feed mail into inews and expect it to work reliably. -- And the bean-counter replied, | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology "beans are more important". | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
jgabriel@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Juan Gabriel Ruiz Pinto) (04/17/91)
dcox@ssd.kodak.com (Don Cox (253-7121)) writes: >Is it possible to send a mail file through inews and have it posted >to a newsgroup? The following is a mail message I received: Is not easy as just send the mail to inews and post it, the news articles need more headers, I use a perl script to change listserv mail articles for a local group to a newsgroup, next is the script, maybe it helps you. (if you have perl of course) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- #! /usr/local/bin/perl -s # Recibe articulos de BIT-CLUB via mail $encontre = 0; $lineas = -1; while ( $linea = <> ) { if ( $linea =~ /^From:/ ) { chop($linea); $linea_from = $linea unless $linea_from; } elsif ( $linea =~ /^Path:/ ) { chop($linea); $path = $linea unless $path; @auxx = split(/ +/,$path); $path = join(" ",@auxx[1..$#auxx]); $path =~ y/A-Z/a-z/; } elsif ( $linea =~ /^Distribution:/ ) { chop($linea); $distribution = $linea unless $distribution; } elsif ( $linea =~ /^References:/ ) { chop($linea); $references = $linea unless $references; } elsif ( $linea =~ /^Subject:/ ) { chop($linea); $linea_subject = $linea unless $linea_subject; @aux = split(/ +/, $linea_subject); $subject = join(" ",@aux[0..$#aux]); } elsif ( $linea =~ /^Date:/ ) { chop($linea); $linea_date = $linea unless $linea_date; } elsif ( $linea =~ /^Organization:/ ) { chop($linea); $linea_organization = $linea unless $linea_organization; @aux = split(/ +/, $linea_organization); $organization = join(" ",@aux[0..$#aux]); } elsif ( $linea =~ /^Message-Id:/ ) { chop($linea); @aux = split(/ +/, $linea); $messageid = join(" ",@aux[0..$#aux]) unless $messageid; } elsif ( $linea =~ /^Newsgroups: / ) { chop($linea); @aux = split(/ +/, $linea); $newsgroups = join(" ",@aux[0..$#aux]) unless $newsgroups; } elsif ( $linea =~ /^\n/ ) { $encontre = 1; } if ( $encontre ) { $lineas++; chop($linea); $texto[$lineas] = $linea; } } if ( $linea_from =~ />$/ ) { @from = split (/</, $linea_from); @aux = split(/ /, $from[0]); $nombre = join(" ",@aux[1..$#aux]); @aux = split(/>/, $from[1]); $origen = $aux[0]; } else { @from = split (/ +/, $linea_from); $nombre = "sin nombre"; $origen = $from[1]; } if ( $origen =~ /%/ ) { @aux = split(/@/, $origen); @aux = split(/%/, $aux[0]); $origen = join("@",@aux[0..$#aux]); } @aux = split(/@/, $origen); $userid = $aux[0]; @aux = split(/\./, $aux[1]); $nodo = $aux[0]; $nodo =~ y/A-Z/a-z/; if ( !$path ) { if ( $nodo !~ /^mtecv2/i ) { $path = $nodo . "!" . $userid; $path =~ y/A-Z/a-z/; } else { $path = $userid; $path =~ y/A-Z/a-z/; } } @aux = split (/ +/, $linea_date); $date = join(" ",@aux[2..$#aux]); if ( !$subject ) { $subject = "Subject: (sin titulo)"; } if ( !$newsgroups ) { $newsgroups = "Newsgroups: itesm.bit-club"; } $origen =~ y/A-Z/a-z/; print <<EOT; Path: $path From: $origen ($nombre) $newsgroups $subject $messageid Date: $date Approved: news@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx EOT if ( $organization ) { print "$organization\n"; } for ($i = 0; $i <= $#texto; $i++) { print "$texto[$i]\n"; } -- Juan Gabriel Ruiz Pinto Internet: Ing. Sistemas Electronicos jgabriel@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx I.T.E.S.M. Campus Monterrey
bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce D. Becker) (04/20/91)
In article <1991Apr16.153753.2336@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: |In article <1991Apr15.233624.11811@ssd.kodak.com> dcox@ssd.kodak.com (Don Cox (253-7121)) writes: |>Is it possible to send a mail file through inews and have it posted |>to a newsgroup? ... | |It's possible but not trivial. News needs more headers (e.g., Newsgroups) |and is fussier about the format of headers (e.g., parenthesized comments |are allowed in only one or two places). You can't just feed mail into inews |and expect it to work reliably. I've been injecting a number of mail lists into news here for a while - I use a shell script that calls awk, which does the real work. This seems to be pretty reliable; the main problems are dup Message-ID's, or else the system running out of process slots... -- ,u, Bruce Becker Toronto, Ontario a /i/ Internet: bdb@becker.UUCP, bruce@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu `\o\-e UUCP: ...!utai!mnetor!becker!bdb _< /_ "Waking up is hard to do" - Neil Sedated
henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) (04/20/91)
In article <90894@becker.UUCP> bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce D. Becker) writes: >|It's possible but not trivial. News needs more headers (e.g., Newsgroups) >|and is fussier about the format of headers... > > I've been injecting a number of mail lists > into news here for a while - I use a shell > script that calls awk, which does the real > work. A reasonable approach. Does your shell/awk combo deal with things like parenthesized comments where they aren't allowed in news? The real test of a gateway is how it copes with extreme cases, not whether it handles the typical ones easily. It's not as simple as it looks. -- And the bean-counter replied, | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology "beans are more important". | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce D. Becker) (04/22/91)
In article <1991Apr19.223903.28698@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: |In article <90894@becker.UUCP> bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce D. Becker) writes: |>|It's possible but not trivial. News needs more headers (e.g., Newsgroups) |>|and is fussier about the format of headers... |> |> I've been injecting a number of mail lists |> into news here for a while - I use a shell |> script that calls awk, which does the real |> work. | |A reasonable approach. Does your shell/awk combo deal with things like |parenthesized comments where they aren't allowed in news? The real test |of a gateway is how it copes with extreme cases, not whether it handles |the typical ones easily. It's not as simple as it looks. Well, I certainly have found that it isn't as simple as it looks, you're right there. The current version works because it's had fixes applied until it does, not because I RTFM. I've currently (until next week) got B news installed - the case you mentioned hasn't yet arisen so it isn't implemented. B news seems to accept the "(" without any complaints so it actually converts "From:" lines to that style (perhaps incorrectly). When I go to C news, I can see that it may need to be fixed for that case, as well as as yet undiscovered others. No doubt this is a familiar-sounding circumstance 8^)... Cheers, -- ,u, Bruce Becker Toronto, Ontario a /i/ Internet: bdb@becker.UUCP, bruce@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu `\o\-e UUCP: ...!utai!mnetor!becker!bdb _< /_ "Waking up is hard to do" - Neil Sedated
henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) (04/22/91)
In article <91014@becker.UUCP> bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce D. Becker) writes: >|... Does your shell/awk combo deal with things like >|parenthesized comments where they aren't allowed in news? ... > > B news seems to accept the "(" without any > complaints so it actually converts "From:" > lines to that style (perhaps incorrectly). The From header is a specialized exception to the rule. -- And the bean-counter replied, | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology "beans are more important". | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry