[news.software.nntp] The News on Mac vs NNTP

mosemann@sardion.unl.edu (Russell Mosemann) (05/03/91)

   The News (a news reader for the Macintosh) does not work for Macs on a
LocalTalk network tied to the Ethernet with a FastPath or a GatorBox.
These "gateways" are configured to dynamically assign IP numbers to the
Macs as they ask for them.  Thus, these numbers are not entered into the
name server host table.
   As I watch the packets going across the network, The News makes the
connection, NNTP 1.5.11 does a name lookup on the IP number, finds that
there is no name for this number, and then issues an "I can't talk to
you, go away." message.
   We have our IP number in the access file with asterisks for the
subnet and the host numbers, but that doesn't help.  It seems that NNTP
is looking specifically for a name.  (We allow reading and posting, in
case you are wondering about that.)
   Is there anything I can do to change this, or is this a fact of life?
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heal@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Loren E. Heal) (05/03/91)

mosemann@sardion.unl.edu (Russell Mosemann) writes:
>   The News (a news reader for the Macintosh) does not work for Macs on a
>LocalTalk network tied to the Ethernet with a FastPath or a GatorBox.
>These "gateways" are configured to dynamically assign IP numbers to the

That's the problem.  We have our IP addresses statically assigned,
and this seems to fix The News.  Both Fastpaths and Gatorboxes can
work this way.
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mosemann@sardion.unl.edu (Russell Mosemann) (05/03/91)

In <heal.673238650@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu> heal@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Loren E. Heal) writes:

>mosemann@sardion.unl.edu (Russell Mosemann) writes:
>>   The News (a news reader for the Macintosh) does not work for Macs on a
>>LocalTalk network tied to the Ethernet with a FastPath or a GatorBox.
>>These "gateways" are configured to dynamically assign IP numbers to the

>That's the problem.  We have our IP addresses statically assigned,
>and this seems to fix The News.  Both Fastpaths and Gatorboxes can
>work this way.

   Assigning the IP addresses statically or dynamically doesn't actually
"fix" The News, because the problem, if it is one, is with NNTP.  NNTP
does not seem to be satisfied with just the number.  It wants a name.  I
bet that you have those static addresses defined in your name server
tables along with names.
   If at all possible, I would prefer not to enter around 600 IP numbers
into our name server.  Is there a way to convince NNTP that IP numbers
are OK?
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ejm@riscit.NOC.Vitalink.COM (Erik J. Murrey) (05/03/91)

In article <1991May3.130444.26161@unlinfo.unl.edu>, mosemann@sardion.unl.edu (Russell Mosemann) writes:
|> 
|>    If at all possible, I would prefer not to enter around 600 IP numbers
|> into our name server.  Is there a way to convince NNTP that IP numbers
|> are OK?


( You might get a flood of these answeres, but... )

Sure,

If you define your class A,B, or C address in /etc/networks, then simply
put the network name in your nntp_access file.  For instance, at Vitalink,
we have our class-B (132.240) in /etc/networks:
vita-net	132.240

And in nntp_access:
vita-net	read	post

This allows any 132.240.x.x machine read/posting access to the news.


'Hope this is what you need!

---
Erik J. Murrey
Vitalink Communications NOC
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hirai@cs.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai) (05/04/91)

Defining a network name such as 'swarthmore 130.58' in /etc/networks, then
using that ('swarthmore read post') in your /usr/new/lib/nntp/nntp_access
file to give the entire net access to your nntp server will work.  Make sure
you #define SUBNET in common/config.h when you're compiling nntp.

At our site, we have lots of FastPath boxes giving dynamically assigned IP
numbers to Macintoshes and they can read news via The News from the nntp
server without any problems.

-- 
Eiji Hirai @ Mathematics Dept., Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA
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