toma@killer.UUCP (Tom Armistead) (07/05/88)
A question for the masses: Where can I get ksh for uPort 286/AT? A phone number or mailing address or something??? Is there a uPort (386-specific) ksh??? Thanks, Tom
johnk@ihlpl.ATT.COM (John Kennedy) (07/06/88)
In article <4700@killer.UUCP>, toma@killer.UUCP (Tom Armistead) writes: > A question for the masses: > Where can I get ksh for uPort 286/AT? A phone number or mailing > address or something??? > > Is there a uPort (386-specific) ksh??? > > > Thanks, > Tom I called uPort this week, looking for a 286-based ksh. They sell one for the 386, but say they don't have one for the 286. So, does anyone make a Korn shell for the 286??? --
karl@ddsw1.UUCP (Karl Denninger) (07/07/88)
In article <4700@killer.UUCP> toma@killer.UUCP (Tom Armistead) writes: >A question for the masses: > Where can I get ksh for uPort 286/AT? A phone number or mailing > address or something??? Try Aspen Technologies -- I understand they sell a licensed port. > Is there a uPort (386-specific) ksh??? It is included in the development system for the '386 version. -- Karl Denninger (ddsw1!karl) Data: (312) 566-8912, Voice: (312) 566-8910 Macro Computer Solutions, Inc. "Quality solutions at a fair price"
" Maynard) (07/07/88)
In article <5674@ihlpl.ATT.COM> johnk@ihlpl.ATT.COM (John Kennedy) writes: >In article <4700@killer.UUCP>, toma@killer.UUCP (Tom Armistead) writes: >> Where can I get ksh for uPort 286/AT? A phone number or mailing >> address or something??? >I called uPort this week, looking for a 286-based ksh. They sell one >for the 386, but say they don't have one for the 286. Huh??! There's a 286 ksh available for download on Microport's BBS. All you have to do to download it is to sign up, and wait a day or so to be validated. I have it, and it appears to work. This brings up another question (yes, I know it's been asked, but I don't remember the answer): There's no documentation available from Microport (that I could find). Where do I find a good book on ksh? -- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC...>splut!< | Never ascribe to malice that which can uucp: uunet!nuchat! | adequately be explained by stupidity. hoptoad!academ!uhnix1!splut!jay +---------------------------------------- {killer,bellcore}!tness1! | Birthright Party '88: let's get spaced!
wtr@moss.ATT.COM (07/07/88)
In article <5674@ihlpl.ATT.COM> johnk@ihlpl.ATT.COM (John Kennedy) writes: >I called uPort this week, looking for a 286-based ksh. They sell one >for the 386, but say they don't have one for the 286. > >So, does anyone make a Korn shell for the 286??? WAIT A MINUTE? The Microport BBS has the 286 executable of ksh which you can download for the price of the phone call. I did this myself about 2 weeks ago, and the last time I logged in there last week, they still had it. They also have lots and lots of good PD software already ported over to SV/AT. If you'd like to go shopping, give them a call. Below is the contents of a letter i sent to Tom (???) the original poster of this question. ============================================================== ksh for SV/AT is available as a downloadable executable. source is not public domain and not available from uport. ksh only supports the VI command line sequence, no emacs. (ksh had to be compiled in small model and both couldn't be fit into 64K :-( in order to download, you must call up the bbs, login, and register your copy by giving them the serial number off of your boot disk. in a few days (hopefuly) you will be able to call up and download any files you want. i highly suggest doing this. the bbs not only has lots of very good public domain utilities (less, 16-bit compress, larry wall's patch and rn, etc,... ) but also this is where they post patches and fixes for the kernal and utilities. in any case, call up and browse around, you can send messages to john sully, or other microport people, and also read about other peoples problems. the phone numbers are: 408-438-6567 (2400/1200/300) 408-438-6687 (2400/1200/300) 408-438-2492 (1200/300) i hope this helps! ===================================================================== Bill Rankin Bell Labs, Whippany NJ (201) 386-4154 (cornet 232) email address: ...![ ihnp4 ulysses cbosgd allegra ]!moss!wtr ...![ ihnp4 cbosgd akgua watmath ]!clyde!wtr =====================================================================
wes@obie.UUCP (Barnacle Wes) (07/07/88)
In article <4700@killer.UUCP>, toma@killer.UUCP (Tom Armistead) writes: > Where can I get ksh for uPort 286/AT? A phone number or mailing > address or something??? Mortice Kern Systems sells their "MKS Trilogy" for System V/AT for $119. It includes the ksh, MKS awk, and MKS crypt, which supports both DES and the Enigma rotor machine algorithms. They accept AmEx, M/C, and Visa. +1 800 265 2797. Source: Add on p. 48 of July, 1988 _Unix Review_ -- {hpda, uwmcsd1}!sp7040!obie!wes "Happiness lies in being priviledged to work hard for long hours in doing whatever you think is worth doing." -- Robert A. Heinlein --
jmsully@uport.UUCP (John M. Sully) (07/07/88)
In article <5674@ihlpl.ATT.COM> johnk@ihlpl.ATT.COM (John Kennedy) writes: >I called uPort this week, looking for a 286-based ksh. They sell one >for the 386, but say they don't have one for the 286. I don't know who you talked to, but the information is most certainly wrong! A 286 ksh is available on the uport BBS (408-438-6567,6687,1680 -- no doc at the present however) and it will be shipped as part of the next release of the software development system. John
plocher@uport.UUCP (John Plocher) (07/08/88)
In article <4700@killer.UUCP> toma@killer.UUCP (Tom Armistead) writes: >A question for the masses: > Where can I get ksh for uPort 286/AT? A phone number or mailing > address or something??? It is included on the 2.3 SDS disks which were shipped with version 2.3 V/AT. Call your sales rep for details > Is there a uPort (386-specific) ksh??? It is also shipped with the 386 SDS. >Thanks, >Tom
tkevans@fallst.UUCP (Tim Evans) (07/08/88)
In article <5674@ihlpl.ATT.COM>, johnk@ihlpl.ATT.COM (John Kennedy) writes: > In article <4700@killer.UUCP>, toma@killer.UUCP (Tom Armistead) writes: > > A question for the masses: > > Where can I get ksh for uPort 286/AT? A phone number or mailing > > address or something??? > -- Last time I looked, there was something called 'ksh' available for down- loading from the Micrport BBS. Tim Evans ******************************************************************** UUCP: ...!{rutgers|ames|uunet}!mimsy!aplcen!wb3ffv!fallst!tkevans OTHER: ...!attmail!fallst!tkevans US MAIL: 2201 Brookhaven Court, Fallston, MD 21047 PHONE: (301) 965-3286 ********************************************************************
nat@bales.UUCP (Nathaniel Stitt) (07/09/88)
In article <363@uport.UUCP> @uport.UUCP (John Plocher) writes: >In article <4700@killer.UUCP> toma@killer.UUCP (Tom Armistead) writes: >> Is there a uPort (386-specific) ksh??? > >It is also shipped with the 386 SDS. > The 386 ksh line edit mode only seems to work in "vi" mode, and not "emacs" mode. Does the 286 ksh on the mport bbs have a working "emacs" mode? nat@bales.uucp -- Nathaniel Stitt | This life is a test. It is only a test. Had Guidelines Software, Inc. | this been an actual life, you would have received ucbvax!cogsci!a!z!nat | further instructions as to what to do and where (415) 849-9050 | to go.
" Maynard) (07/09/88)
In article <363@uport.UUCP> @uport.UUCP (John Plocher) writes: >[...re 286 ksh...] >It is included on the 2.3 SDS disks which were shipped with version 2.3 >V/AT. Call your sales rep for details It wasn't with my 2.3 upgrade... -- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC...>splut!< | Never ascribe to malice that which can uucp: uunet!nuchat! | adequately be explained by stupidity. hoptoad!academ!uhnix1!splut!jay +---------------------------------------- {killer,bellcore}!tness1! | Birthright Party '88: let's get spaced!
richardh@killer.UUCP (Richard Hargrove) (07/09/88)
(with regard to a Microport distribution of ksh) In article <363@uport.UUCP>, plocher@uport.UUCP (John Plocher) writes: > It is included on the 2.3 SDS disks which were shipped with version 2.3 > V/AT. Call your sales rep for details What 2.3 SDS? My 2.3 upgrade made minimal changes to the SDS and certainly included no copy of ksh! Is this possibly a misguided reference to 2.3.1, which, as regular readers know, was discussed in this group only a few weeks ago? The one erroneously described as being in distribution when it is, in fact, still in beta test? richard hargrove ...!{ihnp4 | codas | cbosgd}!killer!richardh --------------------------------------------
bowles@lll-crg.llnl.gov (Jeff Bowles) (07/11/88)
In article <87@obie.UUCP> wes@obie.UUCP (Barnacle Wes) writes: >In article <4700@killer.UUCP>, toma@killer.UUCP (Tom Armistead) writes: >> Where can I get ksh for uPort 286/AT? A phone number or mailing >> address or something??? > >Mortice Kern Systems sells their "MKS Trilogy" for System V/AT for $119. >It includes the ksh, MKS awk, and MKS crypt, which supports both DES and >the Enigma rotor machine algorithms. They accept AmEx, M/C, and Visa. >+1 800 265 2797. I am a little familiar with one of MKS's products --- they sell an MS-DOS toolkit that includes the three things about, in addition to the wealth of Unix tools you would normally use to write shell scripts: sort/comm/uniq/grep/cut/paste/... Although my network disk doesn't entirely like the ksh sometimes, I find that MKS's toolkit makes my life (and more, the life of a coworker stuck on MS-DOS) much easier. Plus, their price is very good. If the '386 tools are anywhere close, it's worth spending the $119 to get a copy to evaluate. Jeff Bowles ps. I'll gladly send a longer, more glowing recommendation via e-mail, but don't want to waste Usenix bandwidth.
wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul) (07/12/88)
In article <10075@lll-winken.llnl.gov> bowles@lll-crg.llnl.gov.UUCP (Jeff Bowles) writes: >In article <87@obie.UUCP> wes@obie.UUCP (Barnacle Wes) writes: >>In article <4700@killer.UUCP>, toma@killer.UUCP (Tom Armistead) writes: >>> Where can I get ksh for uPort 286/AT? A phone number or mailing >>Mortice Kern Systems sells their "MKS Trilogy" for System V/AT for $119. >I am a little familiar with one of MKS's products --- they sell an MS-DOS >toolkit that includes the three things about, in addition to the wealth >of Unix tools you would normally use to write shell scripts: >If the '386 tools are anywhere close, it's worth spending the $119 to >get a copy to evaluate. 1. The MKS Trilogy, last I looked at their ads, was for System V/AT, which is the '286 product, rather than the '386. 2. I have a beta version of the MKS Trilogy (I sent in my bug reports but never got a reply or acknowledgement, so I'm a bit miffed) -- their ksh is larger than the ksh on uport's BBS, loads MUCH SLOWER, and burps on some of the Bourne scripts in /bin (i.e. basename). I don't know whether these things got fixed since they never acknowledged my bug reports. 3. What version of the toolkit are you using on your network? Supposedly Release 2.3 (out about 1 1/2 months) fixed network problems. Wolf Paul -- Wolf N. Paul * 3387 Sam Rayburn Run * Carrollton TX 75007 * (214) 306-9101 UUCP: killer!dcs!wnp ESL: 62832882 DOMAIN: wnp@dcs.UUCP TLX: 910-380-0585 EES PLANO UD