[comp.unix.microport] comp.unix.sys5-intel

vixie@decwrl.dec.com (Paul Vixie) (08/24/88)

# Current volume does not warrant a '286-'386 split.  So, essentially, I'm
# suggesting that we replace comp.unix.microport with comp.unix.sys5-intel.

This is not a good idea.  Partly because, volume notwithstanding, the two
topics are each repulsive to many people interested in the other.  Partly
because, even if no 286/386 split is appropriate, the group would be called

	comp.unix.sys5.intel

(that is, "." instead of "-".)

If any of you think a 286/386 split is inappropriate, send mail to the
person who's collecting the nominations.  I think it's a bad idea, but
what do _you_ think?

# Let's just do this and get it over with, hmm?

No!  Whatever you do, do not _ever_ try to steamroller something like this
through.  Let the nomination/voting process work - it's the only way to let
people have their say.  If you don't ask people what they want and give
those desires some consideration, no Usenet plan-of-change can work.  This
was well-established in the comp.society.women debate, and if that debate
taught us anything, it's that you can't just make changes to group names
because one or a few people think it's a good idea.
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chip@ateng.uucp (Chip Salzenberg) (08/25/88)

According to vixie@decwrl.dec.com (Paul Vixie):
>According to chip@ateng.uucp (Chip Salzenberg):
># Current volume does not warrant a '286-'386 split.  So, essentially, I'm
># suggesting that we replace comp.unix.microport with comp.unix.sys5-intel.
>
>This is not a good idea.  [...]  Partly because, even if no 286/386 split
>is appropriate, the group would be called
>	comp.unix.sys5.intel

What is really meant here is: "Paul think the group should be called..."

I have a reason for the hyphen:  An earlier posting described the trouble
resulting from an early proposal of "comp.unix.sys5.i286", which later
became comp.unix.microport.  Unless we are planning to migrate all
System V ports to comp.unix.sys5.<whatever>, we should avoid creating a
comp.unix.sys5 hierarchy.  (And what of dual ports, like Pyramid's OSx?)

So, if people want to split 286/386 traffic, I would suggest:
	comp.unix.xenix
	comp.unix.sys5-i286
	comp.unix.sys5-i386

Note that I am _not_ the vote collector.  I _do_ hope that this proposal
becomes one of the nominees for the final vote.

>Whatever you do, do not _ever_ try to steamroller something like this
>through.

Point taken.  Let's do it right.

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