[net.micro] copy protection scheme needed

shanks@cdi.UUCP (David Shanks) (03/20/84)

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Does anyone out there know of a good way to copy protect programs on
floppy disks?  The method must work on a variety of MS-DOS running
machines including the NEC-APC (8 inch disks) and the DEC Rainbow
(5 1/4 inch disks, single sided, quad density).  It must also be usable
in mass production and we would like to be able to allow the legitimate
users to make backup copies.

Any pointers to such a method will be greatly appreciated.

p.s.  Any method we use *MUST* be unbreakable :-)
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mats@dual.UUCP (Mats Wichmann) (03/22/84)

Unfortunately, I have nothing to offer in the way of schemes. But I also am
looking. I have heard about any number of copy protection schemes and I
like none of them, in particular, guys who do nasty things like create an
artificial bad sector, or half step the drives. One of our vendors (for
a Word Processor that runs on the UNIX System) has devised some sort of
clever installation scheme, which depends on the customer calling the
vendor when he is doing the actual installation. An unreadable file is
then unscrambled, with the aid of unique keys supplied by the vendor
over the phone. They copy gets installed on the system with some sort of
information which makes is unique to that machine - the same installation
procedure cannot be run on another machine, nor can that copy be moved
to another machine. This also makes backups impossible - a backup restores
onto the system will NOT run.

I don't think that any scheme can be completely foolproof, especially if it
is compatible with mass production (if you make copies, why can't someone else?)
but I would love to hear some ideas on this....



	    Mats Wichmann
	    Dual Systems Corp.
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mar@Mit-Borax.ARPA (03/23/84)

From:  Mark A. Rosenstein <mar@Mit-Borax.ARPA>

Ain't no such thing as an unbreakable floppy protection scheme.
				-Mark