jes@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Joe Smith) (09/15/88)
I am about to buy a machine from a friend which is a 286 AT-clone He has Microport for the machine and I have some questions. I am sure that most of these have been asked before but I've just strated reading this group so please NO FLAMES. 1) If i buy this machine with Microport SysV/AT, is the licsence transferable to me, i.e. can I call up and ask questions and down load from their bboard. 2) This machine does not have much memory (1 Mb), how much sould I have as a single user, without terminals? 3) Does Microport use 80287 chip, if present? 4) The machine has a 70 Mb Miniscribe HD (28 ms). Will this be large enough? 5) What Gnu Software will run on this system? (Emacs, Gnu-C, Gnu-C++ etc?). Thanks for any responses! Frank Kolakowski (a.k.a. Lee) ____________________________________________________________________________ |c/o jes@eniac.seas.upenn.edu || Univ. of Penna. | |kolakowski%c.chem.upenn.edu@relay.upenn.edu || Dept of Chemistry | |bcooperman.kolakowski@bionet-20.arpa || 231 South 34th St. | |AT&T: 1-215-898-2927 || Phila, PA 19104 | ============================================================================= Joe Smith jes@eniac.seas.upenn.edu University of Pennsylvania Department of Chemistry 231 S. 34th Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 (215) 898-4797
jay@splut.UUCP (Jay Maynard) (09/18/88)
In article <5156@netnews.upenn.edu> jes@eniac.seas.upenn.edu.UUCP (Joe Smith) writes: >2) This machine does not have much memory (1 Mb), how much sould I have as > a single user, without terminals? I tried running on 1 meg for a while. It was S-L-O-O-O-O-O-O-W. It got faster at 2.6 meg, and faster still at 4. Go spend money on memory. >3) Does Microport use 80287 chip, if present? Supposedly; I've never been able to tell, though, although I don't do much floating point, either. I do have a 287 in my system. There were some bugs on some versions of Microport with the 287; I don't recall the particulars (though I just realized that this mey be causing the double panics I've been having every 36-72 hours lately). >4) The machine has a 70 Mb Miniscribe HD (28 ms). Will this be large enough? It should be, as long as you don't try to keep a full newsfeed around for longer than about 5 days. News is BIG. >5) What Gnu Software will run on this system? (Emacs, Gnu-C, Gnu-C++ etc?). None. Stallman doesn't believe in supporting real-world personal computers, and is heavily infected with "all the world's a VAX" and "if it isn't at least 500K, it isn't worth anything". -- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC...>splut!< | Never ascribe to malice that which can uucp: uunet!nuchat! | adequately be explained by stupidity. hoptoad!academ!uhnix1!splut!jay +---------------------------------------- {killer,bellcore}!tness1! | Birthright Party '88: let's get spaced!
tucker@urbsdc.Urbana.Gould.COM (09/21/88)
>None. Stallman doesn't believe in supporting real-world personal >computers, and is heavily infected with "all the world's a VAX" and "if >it isn't at least 500K, it isn't worth anything". Not true. The real problem is that all the GNU software, and many other public packages, is written for a 32bit machine. Most of the GNU software runs on a wide variety of 32bit computers. The latest version of the GNU optimizing C compiler evens works on the COMPAQ 386 PC! Tim
mludwig@lehi3b15.UUCP (Mitchell Ludwig ) (09/21/88)
>Jay Maynard writes : >None. Stallman doesn't believe in supporting real-world personal >computers, and is heavily infected with "all the world's a VAX" and "if >it isn't at least 500K, it isn't worth anything". Sorry, lost the question, which was whether or not gnu would work on Microport. Jay, I've got gnu up and running, well, Micro Gnu anyway. It works fine as long as you don't use it with the at386 terminal configuration... Mitchel Ludwig lehi3b15!astro!mfl (I think... It's an everchanging mail trail!)
mike@pmafire.UUCP (mike caldwell) (09/27/88)
In article <420@lehi3b15.UUCP> mludwig@lehi3b15.UUCP (Mitchell Ludwig ) writes: > Sorry, lost the question, which was whether or not gnu would >work on Microport. Jay, I've got gnu up and running, well, Micro Gnu >anyway. It works fine as long as you don't use it with the at386 terminal >configuration... > >Mitchel Ludwig >lehi3b15!astro!mfl >(I think... It's an everchanging mail trail!) > We have successfully used microemacs (not the gnu) with microprort 386 Unix and the at386 terminal. We use microemacs since we have been able to port it (very easily) to the six different Unix boxes and the IBM PC's that we use. Mike Caldwell #define standard_disclaimer