[comp.unix.microport] TCP/IP boards

mark@intek01.UUCP (Mark McWiggins) (12/01/88)

What TCP/IP board should I buy for 386 Unix?  I see Excelan's name the
most, but I believe I've also seen some negative comments about their
response to OS upgrades, etc.

Thanks in advance for your help.  I'll post a summary if anyone is interested.
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ken@uport.UUCP (Ken Chapin) (12/01/88)

In article <374@intek01.UUCP> mark@intek01.UUCP (Mark McWiggins) writes:
->What TCP/IP board should I buy for 386 Unix?  I see Excelan's name the
->most, but I believe I've also seen some negative comments about their
->response to OS upgrades, etc.
->
->Thanks in advance for your help.  I'll post a summary if anyone is interested.
->-- 
->
->Mark McWiggins			UUCP:		uunet!intek01!mark

Excelan's software for SVR3.0 is a bit outdated and does not support streams. I think that Micom/Interlan has a better product and is much more up to date.

romkey@asylum.sf.ca.us (John Romkey) (12/02/88)

In article <374@intek01.UUCP> mark@intek01.UUCP (Mark McWiggins) writes:
>What TCP/IP board should I buy for 386 Unix?

You might want to consider a host-based implementation. The only one
out there that I know of is by Streamlined Networks. I used it running
under Bell Technologies UNIX System V and it worked quite well. It had
all the standard BSD stuff.

With a good ethernet board (like the Western Digital WD8003), I
wouldn't be surprised if the Streamlined Networks TCP running on the
386 outperformed what you'd get from a smart board, which is likely to
only have an 80186 or such on it.

The latest ad I've seen is in the December issue of UNIX Review.

Their address is:
	Streamlined Networks
	PO Box 14763
	Fremont, CA  94539
	(415) 659-1450

I have no association with them whatsoever.

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dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) (12/03/88)

In article <1023@asylum.sf.ca.us> romkey@asylum.UUCP (John Romkey) writes:
>In article <374@intek01.UUCP> mark@intek01.UUCP (Mark McWiggins) writes:
>>What TCP/IP board should I buy for 386 Unix?
>You might want to consider a host-based implementation. The only one
>out there that I know of is by Streamlined Networks. I used it running
>under Bell Technologies UNIX System V and it worked quite well. It had
>all the standard BSD stuff.

Ditto with John about host-based TCP/IP's usually outperforming the
so-called "smart" cards.  In addition, a multi-homed host running a
host-based TCP/IP can perform routing between the different networks,
something which is difficult, if not impossible, to do with multiple smart
cards, each of which usually has a self-contained IP implementation
which does not know of the others.

Though I used the Streamlined Networks package with John on a Bell Tech
box and was very happy with it, I fear that their XENIX market will be
closing very quickly, because SCO has just announced their own host-
based TCP/IP package which will also integrate smoothly with their
forthcoming NFS and X11 ports.  I believe the TCP and NFS ports are
derived from Lachman, X11 from Locus.  I don't have any experience
with it yet, but as soon as it's available, I'll install it and
let the net know what my experience is.

ISC's 386/ix has a host-based TCP/IP implementation as well.

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jim@applix.UUCP (Jim Morton) (12/06/88)

In article <1023@asylum.sf.ca.us>, romkey@asylum.sf.ca.us (John Romkey) writes:
> In article <374@intek01.UUCP> mark@intek01.UUCP (Mark McWiggins) writes:
> >What TCP/IP board should I buy for 386 Unix?
> You might want to consider a host-based implementation. The only one
> out there that I know of is by Streamlined Networks. I used it running

Interactive 386/ix 1.06 has, and SCO Unix V.3.2 will have, as options,
host based TCP/IP with support for the following dumb ethernet boards:
	- Western Digital WD8003
	- Ungermann Bass PC-NIC 2273A (maybe 386/ix only?)
	- 3Com 3C501/502/503 
	- Micom NI5010 (maybe 386/ix only?)
Sun's PC-NFS version 3 supports the same boards and more. If I were
planning for the future with PC-bus machines, I would pick from this list. 
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ken@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Ken) (12/07/88)

In article <873@applix.UUCP> jim@applix.UUCP (Jim Morton) writes:

   Interactive 386/ix 1.06 has, and SCO Unix V.3.2 will have, as options,
   host based TCP/IP with support for the following dumb ethernet boards:

Does anyone have a timeframe on when SCO's TCP/IP will be released?
Much appreciated...

Ken

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dougm@ico.ISC.COM (Doug McCallum) (12/09/88)

In article <873@applix.UUCP> jim@applix.UUCP (Jim Morton) writes:
...
>Interactive 386/ix 1.06 has, and SCO Unix V.3.2 will have, as options,
>host based TCP/IP with support for the following dumb ethernet boards:
>	- Western Digital WD8003
>	- Ungermann Bass PC-NIC 2273A (maybe 386/ix only?)
>	- 3Com 3C501/502/503 
>	- Micom NI5010 (maybe 386/ix only?)

386/ix TCP/IP under 1.06 currently supports:
	WD8003*
	U-B PC-NIC
	3C501 and 3C503	(whats a 502?)
	NI5210 and NI9210

Additional ethernet boards may be supported in the future but these are
what we have at the moment.