[comp.unix.microport] TrailBlazer with V/AT

mdm@cocktrice.UUCP (Mike Mitchell) (12/14/88)

I have recently added a Telebit TrailBlazer+ to my system, and I am
wondering if anyone out there has the optimal setup parameters to make
this beast scream with V/AT?

I currently have the beast configured and operating with a couple of
links, so it is operational. There were some changes that I made to the
default factory configuration. These changes have come from various
places on the net, however they are not specific to V/AT.

So far I am averaging somewhere on the order of 675 chars/sec for file
transfer (this blows away what I was doing), however I am wondering if
there might be a nifty way to bump this up.

Thanks for any pointers.


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debra@alice.UUCP (Paul De Bra) (12/15/88)

In article <354@cocktrice.UUCP> mdm@cocktrice.UUCP (Mike Mitchell) writes:
>I have recently added a Telebit TrailBlazer+ to my system, and I am
>wondering if anyone out there has the optimal setup parameters to make
>this beast scream with V/AT?
>...
>So far I am averaging somewhere on the order of 675 chars/sec for file
>transfer (this blows away what I was doing), however I am wondering if
>there might be a nifty way to bump this up.

You don't specify what program you use for file-transfer, but in the case
of uucp 675 chars/sec is pretty respectable, especially with V/AT (which
is slow in general).

I have used uucp on all sorts of lines, baud-rates and distances and
you generally get at most 2/3 of the baud-rate (except at very low speeds
when you can get more). The only way to increase speed beyond this is to
use protocol "f", but not all uucp implementations support it, and
it only gives you a 7-bit datapath.

Paul.
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rsj@wa4mei.UUCP (Randy Jarrett WA4MEI) (12/16/88)

In article <354@cocktrice.UUCP> mdm@cocktrice.UUCP (Mike Mitchell) writes:
>I have recently added a Telebit TrailBlazer+ to my system, and I am
>wondering if anyone out there has the optimal setup parameters to make
>this beast scream with V/AT?
>
>I currently have the beast configured and operating with a couple of
>links, so it is operational. There were some changes that I made to the
>default factory configuration. These changes have come from various
>places on the net, however they are not specific to V/AT.
>
>So far I am averaging somewhere on the order of 675 chars/sec for file
>transfer (this blows away what I was doing), however I am wondering if
>there might be a nifty way to bump this up.
>
>Thanks for any pointers.
>
>
>-- 
>Mike Mitchell				BELL:	(505) 471-7639
>2020 Calle Lorca #43			ARPA:	mdm@cocktrice.UUCP
>Santa Fe, NM 87505			UUCP:	...!uunet!dmk3b1!cocktrice!mdm

Below is the setup that I am using with my TB+ on V/AT 2.4. I am also using
a version of uugetty that changes the value in S50 to 255 when I am calling
a system at the higher speed. Also important is to set S92 to 1 which will
cause the system to answer with the PEP tones last so as to not drive the
1200 and 2400 baud modems crazy.

As far as transfer speed goes the second section below shows my system
averages for two days. The sites kd4nc, gatech, and nanovx are running
trailblazers. kd4nc is also a V/AT 2.4 system and nanovx is a Xenix system
and as you can see the best transfers seem to be to nanovx. I'll leave
any conculsions to you.

I am currently running a Trailblazer and 1 hayes 2400 modems. My second
Trailblazer is on the way and the hayes will be put on the shelf with
its mate. I have a Connect Tech 8 port inteligent board and kd4nc is
running their 4 port.  The boards work real well and we havn't had
any problems with them.


E0 F1 M1 Q0 P V1 X1     Version BA4.00
S00=004 S01=000 S02=255 S03=013 S04=010 S05=008 S06=002 S07=040 S08=002 S09=006
S10=007 S11=070 S12=050 
S45=000 S47=004 S48=000 S49=000
S50=000 S51=255 S52=002 S53=001 S54=002 S55=000 S56=017 S57=019 S58=002 S59=000
S60=000 S61=045 S62=003 S63=001 S64=000 S65=000 S66=000 S67=000 S68=002 
S90=000 S91=000 S92=001 S95=002 
S100=000 S101=000 S102=000 S104=000 
S110=255 S111=255 S112=001 
S121=000 


Remote     K-Bytes   K-Bytes   K-Bytes  Hours  Hours AvCPS AvCPS    #    #
SiteName      Recv      Xmit     Total   Recv   Xmit  Recv  Xmit Recv Xmit
-------- --------- --------- --------- ------ ------ ----- ----- ---- ----
kd4nc        0.300  1726.845  1727.145   0.00   0.60    38   804    6   90
wgs6386      0.000   867.041   867.041   0.00   1.09     0   220    0  546
dscatl       0.879  1981.860  1982.739   0.00   3.95    89   139    4  106
emcard       0.313     1.086     1.399   0.00   0.00    83   242    2    4
gatech    1581.256     0.000  1581.256   0.95   0.00   464     0   68    0
nanovx       0.000  5744.270  5744.270   0.00   1.13     0  1417    0  272
bcs3b2       0.504     0.000     0.504   0.00   0.00    95     0    2    0


Remote     K-Bytes   K-Bytes   K-Bytes  Hours  Hours AvCPS AvCPS    #    #
SiteName      Recv      Xmit     Total   Recv   Xmit  Recv  Xmit Recv Xmit
-------- --------- --------- --------- ------ ------ ----- ----- ---- ----
kd4nc        0.100  2434.802  2434.902   0.00   1.06    22   636    2  112
gatech    3189.493     0.285  3189.778   1.91   0.00   464   252  142    2
emcard       0.557     0.287     0.844   0.00   0.00   119   282    2    2
nanovx       0.000  3382.175  3382.175   0.00   0.64     0  1457    0  151
dscatl       0.000   659.776   659.776   0.00   0.97     0   189    0   30

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andrew@ramona.UU.NET (Andrew Ernest) (12/18/88)

From the register dump he included in his article, it appears Randy
Jarrett is attempting to use RTS/CTS flow control (S58 = S68 = 2)
between his computer and Trailblazer modem.  I was under the
impression that V/AT did not support this form of handshaking.  I
tried it with 2.3 and the serial driver seems to ignore RTS/CTS.
Fortunately, uucp's g protocol does its own flow control.  However,
other applications would be much cleaner and simpler if V/AT supported
RTS/CTS handshaking.

Microport tech support (or anyone else who knows for sure), does V/AT
support RTS/CTS flow control?  If so, how does one enable it?  I would
love to be able to lock the interface speed and dispense with XON/XOFF
flow control for non-uucp applications.

Andrew Ernest	(andrew@ramona.uu.net)

rsj@wa4mei.UUCP (Randy Jarrett WA4MEI) (12/19/88)

In article <412@ramona.UU.NET> andrew@ramona.UU.NET (Andrew Ernest) writes:
>From the register dump he included in his article, it appears Randy
>Jarrett is attempting to use RTS/CTS flow control (S58 = S68 = 2)
>between his computer and Trailblazer modem.  I was under the
>impression that V/AT did not support this form of handshaking.  I
>tried it with 2.3 and the serial driver seems to ignore RTS/CTS.

I don't know if V/AT supports RTS/CTS or not. As I mentioned, I am
using the Connect Tech 8 port intelligent serial board which as
far as I know, supports the handshaking. I am running 1 TB+, 1 Hayes
2400 (soon to be TB+), and 2 19,200 serial ports on it so far and
have not had any problems at all.  There are some others in the area
that are also using the CT board and are happy with it.



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jiii@visdc.UUCP (John E Van Deusen III) (12/31/88)

From your list of register contents, the setting S51=255 (automatic
speed select) defaults to 9,600 baud.  There is a poorly-documented
setting of S51=254 that defaults to 19,200 baud.  The TB+ really
needs to be fed at 19,200 because the theoretical data rate is higher
than 9,600 baud.  The higher rate gives the processor more time to
do compression and error correction too.

A 9,600 baud interface speed at the receiving end is less critical
because the processing has already been done.  Some systems don't like
unsolicited input at 19,200.  A backbone site like uunet, that transmits
at 19,200 baud (S51=254), can very effectively send news to a site
running a TB+ at 9,600 (S51=255).

Since you have an I/O board with an effective flow control protocol,
I can't see why you wouldn't want to simplify your life and set
S51=5, 19,200 baud interface speed at all transmission modes.  You
can feed the TB+ at 19,200 and the modem with take care of the rest,
even talking to a Bell 103 with no modem control.

debra@alice.UUCP (Paul De Bra) (01/01/89)

In article <252@visdc.UUCP> jiii@visdc.UUCP (John E Van Deusen III) writes:
>...
>Since you have an I/O board with an effective flow control protocol,
>I can't see why you wouldn't want to simplify your life and set
>S51=5, 19,200 baud interface speed at all transmission modes.  You
>can feed the TB+ at 19,200 and the modem with take care of the rest,
>even talking to a Bell 103 with no modem control.

Sure uucp can talk to a Bell 103, but when you log on from a lower-speed
modem and try to work interactively, the buffers will overflow. When you
try an ls -l in a large directory the output may be garbled after some
number of lines because of buffer overflow in the modem. Only programs
that use relatively small packets will work well with speed-mismatches.

Paul.
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