avr@mtgzz.att.com (a.v.reed) (01/06/89)
In article <322@belltec.UUCP>, dar@belltec.UUCP (Dimitri Rotow) writes: > If you want to buy it from us, we can't sell it to you (since it is > UNIX licensed material and AT&T has given Prentice Hall an exclusive > on selling UNIX manuals outside of an association with a UNIX software > license) *unless* you also buy 3.2. Their rules, not ours. An exclusive to Prentice Hall? I doubt it, especially since UNIX-related stuff is usually available either to anyone willing to pay for it, or to no-one, with the possible exception of academic researchers, outside the company. I know for a fact that CBS College Publishing, and its Holt, Rinehart and Winston subsidiary, also publich reprints of AT&T UNIX(R) documentation; there may be others. Adam Reed (avr@mtgzz.ATT.COM)
dar@belltec.UUCP (Dimitri Rotow) (01/11/89)
In article <4837@mtgzz.att.com>, avr@mtgzz.att.com (a.v.reed) writes: [ my earlier comment that PH got an exclusive on UNIX manual printing deleted ...] > > An exclusive to Prentice Hall? I doubt it, especially since UNIX-related > stuff is usually available either to anyone willing to pay for it, or to > no-one, with the possible exception of academic researchers, outside the > company. I know for a fact that CBS College Publishing, and its Holt, > Rinehart and Winston subsidiary, also publich reprints of AT&T UNIX(R) > documentation; there may be others. > > Adam Reed (avr@mtgzz.ATT.COM) The exclusive is apparently for distribution of UNIX manuals as commercially printed books outside of their utilization as manuals accompanying licensed code. I can't say exactly since neither AT&T nor Prentice Hall will let me read the contract between the two :). Under our license, we can ship up to two sets of manuals to any licensee of the software. If we pay the MCG set up fee (ie, the right to reprint documentation beyond the basic two sets), we also get to ship additional copies *to software licensees* for an additional charge per set. We do not get to ship the UNIX books to a bookstore for sale just as a book set, although we have received numerous requests to do so. That, apparently is what AT&T sold to PH. I know that the CBS books are also out there, but they are apparently limited to pre -Release 3.0 editions. I don't think, by the way, that AT&T did a bad thing in this deal with PH, because PH has been instrumental in getting System V books out to the general public. It's only fair that they got some incentive to take the risk of publishing the immense line of terrific UNIX books that they did. Just think, it save them from the unholy fate of pandering to the OS/2 market :). Now they get to impress all of their friends with the sheer elan of being the world's pre-eminent UNIX publisher! - dimitri