[net.micro] Recent flame on single CPU software licenses

Seiler@MIT-XX.ARPA (04/02/84)

From:  Larry Seiler <Seiler@MIT-XX.ARPA>

Dear jpm,

Even supposing that the support for two machines costs no more than 
for one (what if they are different machines running different versions 
of the code), why shouldn't a software house want to get paid for each 
copy of its software that is run?  Is that greed?  If so, then what word
describes your attitude of refusing to pay them?  Or when you said
that you were "forced to sign" the agreement, did you mean that two
tough guys came over and beat you into submission?  Gimme a break!

Many people have made rational comments on the problems of software
piracy and restrictive software licenses.  You are not in that group.
While a no-exceptions single CPU license may be too restrictive, there
has to be SOME restriction or else all the software houses will go out
of business.  What should it be?  All computers owned by one person?
All computers owned by a single business?  Does anybody really think that
a copmpany with 50 PC's running text editors should pay the same for that
text editor as a company with only one PC?  Clearly, there should be some
middle ground between paying once for 50 copies and paying 50 times.  In a
business setting, this middle ground is sometimes called "volume discount".
Some more flexible policies for non-business users should also be available.
If anyone has rational suggestions, you are welcome to reply.  If anyone
takes the attitude that they have a right to whatever they want, and will
lie to get it, please crawl in a hole.

	Larry Seiler
	Seiler@MIT-XX
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BILLW@Sri-Kl.ARPA (04/03/84)

Single CPU licenses are a sore point with me also.  SRI has what I consider
a good compromise with mark of the Unicorn (makers of EMACS clones...).
What we do essentially is buy one copy of the software/documentation/etc.
Then, for everyone at SRI who would like to run a copy of Mince, an unlucky
volunteer copies the disk into an approproate format and xeroxes all the
documentation, which is given to the new person in the "SRI Amythest users
group", and we send something like $50 to Mark ot the Unicorn.  Now,
Amythest (Mince/Scribble/BDS C) is normally about a $300 package.  MotU
can expect to get about 40% of that if distributed through normal channels,
much of which is actually spent, so MotU ends up getting a good deal.
Including copying costs, its costs each SRI person about $135, instead of
$300, which is a good deal for them.  Everyone feels good about the
arangment, which is good for everyone, and it encourages people at SRI
to use the same software, which is good for ME.  I think we have the same
deal for the IBMPC version of MINCE.

I wish other distributers had similar arrangments!  Right now, someone
comes into my office and wants to transfer files from his apple to our
KL, I tell him he has to go out and buy a copy of "the ASCII professional",
and then....  If I could just let him copy a disk and give me a charge
number, evything would worka lot nicer....

BillW

kevinw%isl@sri-unix.UUCP (04/03/84)

>> Many people have made rational comments on the problems of software
>> piracy and restrictive software licenses.  You are not in that group.

Somehow it seems to me that this is a completely irresponsible of voicing
your own opinion.  This kind of intolerance will not assist the discussion
of "rational" comments.

  -- K