[rec.food.recipes] 35 GMT

aem@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (a.e.mossberg) (05/30/91)

 - Contents:

	INTRODUCTION
	HEADERS
	RECIPE FORMATS
	MEASUREMENTS
	SUBMITTING AN ARTICLE
	FOLLOW-UPS TO ARTICLES
	ARTICLES FROM OTHER SOURCES
	WHATEVER HAPPENED TO ALT.GOURMAND
	DIGEST VERSION OF THIS GROUP
	ARCHIVES


INTRODUCTION

Hi, Welcome to the monthly posting for Rec.Food.Recipes. This posting
is designed to tell you a little about our newsgroup, and some
suggested guidelines. First off, let me say that this is a moderated
group. An utterly thankless job, but one which hopefully will keep a
high-quality level of posting here (what's called a high signal/noise
ratio on USENET).

This group is designed for the dissemination of recipes. It was created
early in 1990, when rec.food.cooking had more and more postings of both
recipes and non-recipes. It was ultimately decided that a separate
group for recipes was a *real good idea*, and a successful vote was
held. (Net historians: the final vote was 233 for, and 116 against. The
guidelines at the time specified that a successful vote was yes votes at
least 2x no votes, and at least 100 more yes votes than no votes.)


HEADERS

This group, while primarily for recipes, also allows requests for
recipes.  I, as moderator, set up headers to reflect their content as
unambiguously as possible.

The Subject line consists of a uppercase keyword, followed by the
actual message title. For example,

	Subject: PORK: Grecian Pork Chops

Keywords are picked to be self-explanatory. Here are some typical ones:

VEGAN	PORK	OVO	BEEF	OVO-LACTO
LAMB	LACTO	DRINK	REQUEST CHICKEN

To head off the two or three questions I get every time this article is
posted, OVO means the the recipe contains eggs, but not meat or milk
products. LACTO means that it contains milk products but not eggs or
meat, and OVO-LACTO means that it contains eggs and milk products but
not meat.  These are standard designators.  Really.  

If an article contains multiple recipes which would normally get
different keywords, I try to use the keyword which will get the largest
readership for that article. For instance, if an article contains two
OVO-LACTO recipes and one BEEF recipe, I will probably use OVO-LACTO
rather than BEEF.  Ovo-lacto vegetarians can ignore the BEEF recipe,
but if I used the BEEF keyword they could miss the two OVO-LACTO
recipes.  If no type of recipe is predominant, I'll usually use MISC as
the keyword.


RECIPE FORMATS 

  Recipes can be any format.  Details later.  The important thing is to
make your recipe clear.  Don't depend on brand names being available
elsewhere in the world or even in the same country or region.  If
you're using specialty ingredients, please give a brief description of
what they are.  I won't reject a recipe because of its format.
Generally I won't reject anything sent to me. If it's not a recipe,
I'll redirect it into one of the other rec.food sub-groups, usually
rec.food.cooking.


MEASUREMENTS

  Most, but not all, sites on USENET are located in the US. Hence most
measurements you'll see will be in the customary US system rather than
in the metric or UK systems. If you're out of the US, please remember
this when following the recipes. Below are conversion tables that were
provided by Fruitbat <fruitbat@tardis.cs.ed.ac.uk> and Caroline Knight
<cdfk@hplb.hpl.hp.com>

  The measurements below provide simple conversions between UK measures
and US ones. The measurements given are approximate for convenience in
recipes, and care must be taken when making cakes or pastries, when
more accuracy may be needed. Conversions into cups are provided, and
some of the differences in language noted.


 - Oven temperatures -------------------------------------------
                      (these are approximate)

Electric                    Gas mark    Description

Fahrenheit   Centigrade

225 F           110 C       1/4         Very cool
250 F           130 C       1/2
275 F           140 C       1           cool
300 F           150 C       2
325 F           160 C       3           very moderate
350 F           180 C       4           moderate
375 F           190 C       5
400 F           200 C       6           moderately hot
425 F           220 C       7           hot
450 F           230 C       8
475 F           240 C       9           very hot

 - Food equivalences -------------------------------------------

British measure                 American equivalent

Flours:
flour - white plain/strong/     sifted flour - all-purpose/
    self-raising/unbleached         unbleached white
    4-5 oz                         1 cup
wholemeal/stoneground           whole wheat
    6oz                            1 cup
cornflour                       cornstarch
    4 1/2 - 5 oz                   1 cup
yellow corn meal/polenta        coarse corn meal/polenta
    6 oz                           1 cup
rye flour                       rye flour
    6 oz                           1 cup

Cereals:
pearl barley                    pearl barley
    7 oz                           1 cup
rice/bulgar wheat/millet/wheat  rice/bulgar wheat/millet/wheat
                                    berries
    7 oz                           1 cup
semolina/ground rice/tapioca    semolina/ground rice/tapioca
    6 oz                           1 cup
fresh soft breadcrumbs/         fresh soft breadcrumbs/
    cake crumbs                     cake crumbs
    2 oz                           1 cup
dried breadcrumbs               dried breadcrumbs
    4 oz                           1 cup
porridge oats                   rolled oats
    3 1/2 oz                       1 cup

Sugars:
light/dark soft brown sugar     light/dark brown sugar
    8 oz                           1 cup (firmly packed)
castor/granulated sugar         granulated sugar
    7 1/2 oz                       1 cup
icing sugar                     sifted confectioners' sugar
    4 1/2 oz                       1 cup

Fats and cheeses:
butter, margarine, cooking      butter, shortening, lard,
    fat, lard, dripping             drippings - solid or melted
    1 oz                           2 tablespoons
    8 oz                           1 cup
grated cheese - cheddar type    grated cheese - cheddar type
    4 oz                           1 cup
    1 lb                           4 - 5 cups (packed)

Vegetables and fruit:
onion                           onion                 
    1 small to med                  1 cup chopped
shelled peas                    shelled peas
    4 oz                           3/4 cup
cooked sweet corn               cooked sweet corn
    4 oz                           1 cup
celery                          celery
    4 sticks                        1 cup (chopped)
chopped tomatoes                chopped tomatoes
    7 oz                           1 cup
button mushrooms                button mushrooms
    3-4 oz                         1 cup
chopped pickled beetroot        chopped pickled beetroot
    2 oz                           1/3 cup
black/redcurrants/bilberries    black/redcurrants/bilberries
    4 oz                           1 cup
raspberries/strawberries        raspberries/strawberries
    5 oz                           1 cup

Dried beans:
black/lentils/chick peas/pinto/ black/lentils/chick peas/pinto/
    white                           white
    3 1/2 oz                       1/2 cup

Dried fruit and nuts, etc:
currants/sultanas/raisins/      currants/sultanas/raisins/
    chopped candied peel            chopped candied peel
    5-6 oz                         1 cup
    2 oz(K - raisins)              1/3 cup
glace cherries                  candied cherries
    8 oz                           1 cup
sesame seeds                    sesame seeds
    3 1/2 oz                        3/4 cup
whole shelled almonds           whole shelled almonds
    5 oz                           1 cup
ground almonds                  ground almonds
    4 oz                           1 cup
chopped nuts                    chopped nuts
    2 oz(K)                        1/3 to 1/2 cup

Nut butters:
peanut/almond/cashew etc        peanut/almond/cashew etc
    8 oz                           1 cup

Preserves:
clear honey/golden syrup/       clear honey/golden syrup/
    molasses/black treacle          molasses/black treacle
    12 oz                          1 cup
maple/corn syrup                maple/corn syrup
    11 oz                          1 cup
jam/marmalade/jelly             jam/marmalade/jelly
    5-6 oz                         1/2 cup

Where necessary I have used the conversion of 1 kg = 2.2 lb

 - American liquid measures ------------------------------------

1 pint             450 ml ( 16 fl oz)
1 cup              225 ml (  8 fl oz)
1 tablespoon        16 ml (1/2 fl oz)

 - British liquid measures -------------------------------------

I have got conflicting tables showing these:-

1 pint             570 ml ( 20 fl oz)
1 breakfast cup           ( 10 fl oz) 1/2 pint
1 tea cup                             1/3 pint
8 tablespoons                         1/4 pint

BUT 8 * 15 * 4 = 480 ml which is short of a pint!

1 tablespoon        15 ml (RD)
1 desertspoon       10 ml (RD)
1 teaspoon           5 ml (RD)        1/3 tablespoon (S)

 - British short cuts -----------------------------------------

Cheese (grated)             1 oz = 4 level tablespoons
Cocoa or chocolate powder   1 oz = 3 level tablespoons
Coconut (desicated)         1 oz = 4 level tablespoons
Flour (unsifted)            1 oz = 3 level tablespoons
Sugar (castor)              1 oz = 2 level tablespoons
      (granulated)          1 oz = 2 level tablespoons
       (icing)              1 oz = 2 1/2 level tablespoons
Syrup (golden)              1 oz = 1 level tablespoons

 - Ounces to grammes -------------------------------------------
                      (1kg is about 2lb 3oz.)

  Oz      g     Oz     g      Oz     g      Oz     g
 -------------------------------------------------------
   1     25  |   6    175  |  11    300  |  16    450    (16oz = 1lb)
   2     50  |   7    200  |  12    350  |  17    465   
   3     75  |   8    225  |  13    375  |  18    500   
   4    100  |   9    250  |  14    400  |  19    550   
   5    150  |  10    275  |  15    425  |  20    575   
 -------------------------------------------------------


SUBMITTING AN ARTICLE

  Most news systems are set up to automatically forward any article
posted to rec.food.recipes to the recipes submission address
recipes@mthvax.cs.miami.edu  Unfortunately, not all systems are
properly set up, and some will reject a message posted to the group,
give you an error message, or just toss the article away.  If your news
system exhibits this "feature", you should first notify your system
administrator so they can do something about it.  You can submit
articles directly to the submission address by mailing them to
recipes@mthvax.cs.miami.edu and bypass the local problem altogether.
People receiving the digest version of this group should also mail
their articles to that address.


FOLLOW-UPS TO ARTICLES

  Follow-ups in rec.food.recipes are automatically set as appropriate.
Regular recipes have follow-up set to rec.food.cooking, vegetarian
(i.e.  the OVO, VEGAN, etc. keywords) recipes are set to follow-up to
rec.food.veg, drink recipes to rec.food.drink, and recipe requests are
set to followup to rec.food.recipes itself.


ARTICLES FROM OTHER SOURCES

  In general, individual recipes from copyrighted sources may be
submitted, but you must provide a good attribution, preferably including
not only title and author, but also publisher and publication date.
Perhaps even the ISBN.  I would rather have you reword the instructions
as you actually make the recipe instead of you quoting verbatim. In any
case, don't forget to state the original source of the recipe. Recipes
themselves are not protected by copyright, but the commentary probably is.


WHATEVER HAPPENED TO ALT.GOURMAND

  This group is not a renamed alt.gourmand, nor does it replace
alt.gourmand, which had a lengthy hiatus, but should be back any
moment. Alt.gourmand is a project of Brian Reid, and works like this:
you send recipes to Brian. Brian tries them out, formats them into the
"recip" format, and posts them to alt.gourmand.  There is a suite of
software for manipulating the recipes for alt.gourmand, printing out
the USENET Cookbook, and so on.  

  If you want to retrieve recipes or the alt.gourmand software from
gatekeeper.dec.com and don't know how, talk to your system
administrator.  You may have to use the mail archive server
archive-server@gatekeeper.dec.com to get the files through e-mail.


DIGEST VERSION OF THIS GROUP

  There is a digest mailing list of postings to this group. During the
initial discussion for this newsgroup, several European usenetters said
they couldn't get rec groups, so I have simple digesting software and
mail them out when the file has around 10000-15000 bytes in it. 

  If you'd like to get on the digest mailing list, send me a note at
aem@mthvax.cs.miami.edu and I'll be happy to add you to the mailing
list. The digest formerly tracked submissions to rec.food.recipes, but
now consists of articles as posted to rec.food.recipes.


ARCHIVES

 Archives of the digest version of this group exist in ftp-able form
on wuarchive.wustl.edu. If you're not on Internet, you're out of luck
right now. This may change in the near future, but for now the only way
to get back issues is by ftp.  Currently there is no index to the
archives, this will also change. For those on internet who for some
reason do not have a functioning nameserver, the IP address of wuarchive
is 128.252.135.4


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