kurt@fluke.UUCP (05/07/84)
I just got a mailing from digital press, the printing arm of digital equipment corporation. They advertised themselves as a publisher of timely and interesting books for educators and computer professionals, so I read the ad. Imagine my surprise and disgust when I discovered that what they were selling was mostly outdated processor manuals and catalogs at bestseller prices. Give me a break. If I wanted to know how to interface to a wide variety of terminals, I wouldn't buy a book that described only DEC hardware, and if I wanted to interface with DEC hardware, I would certainly not expect to pay $14.95 for the privilege. Then there were the books allegedly for use in teaching operating systems classes that actually were manuals for VMS, RSTS, etc. I don't know about you, but I don't consider RSTS, RSX, or VMS to be the quintessential expression in operating system design, and would greatly prefer a more general, easier-to-read text than a manual. Stuff like this should be given away free. Always my own opinion, my company buys DEC stuff and likes it fine. -- Kurt Guntheroth John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc. {uw-beaver,decvax!microsof,ucbvax!lbl-csam,allegra,ssc-vax}!fluke!kurt
rgh@inmet.UUCP (05/20/84)
#R:vax2:0:inmet:5800051:000:656 inmet!rgh May 18 19:22:00 1984 Some of the Digital Press stuff is pretty good. McNamara's {Technical Aspects of Data Communication} is the best single book I've seen on the subject, especially valuable because it details a lot of the nuts & bolts. {Computer Engineering: A DEC View of Hardware System Design} collects many of the original papers on such important processors as the PDP-8, DEC-10, PDP-11, and VAX. Their series on the history of computing has received good reviews. I suspect the material you saw was from DECbooks, a division of Digital Press, which does push the manuals. Not a DECperson, Randy Hudson {harpo, decvax!cca!ima, ihnp4} !inmet!rgh
kurt@fluke.UUCP (Kurt Guntheroth) (05/23/84)
I was the one who posted the original article critical of DEC Press. It seems that DEC Press does publish some quite worthwhile books, including the 'History of Computing' series. I obviously should have narrowed the scope of my criticism. I wish the advertisement I received had more of these worthwhile titles listed and fewer of the old processor manuals. Why weren't all the worthwhile titles mentioned? Sigh. -- Kurt Guntheroth John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc. {uw-beaver,decvax!microsof,ucbvax!lbl-csam,allegra,ssc-vax}!fluke!kurt
minow@decvax.UUCP (05/25/84)
Digital Press performs two functions: first, it publishes and distributes Dec hardware and software manuals for the general public. These manuals cost a fair amount to write, print, and distribute -- and, if a sales engineer gives you a copy, it is in the hope that it will cause you to buy a computer. A more important function it performs is as a publisher of trade books in the computer field. Some of these have become classics; John McNamara's Technical Aspects of Data Communicatins, for example. One of its specialties is a series tracing the history of computing. If you look beyond the processor manuals, you will probably find a solid collection of well-writen and produced books. (Take a look at "Games Computers Play", for example.) Martin Minow decvax!minow