[net.micro] digital press 'rip-off'

kurt@fluke.UUCP (05/07/84)

I just got a mailing from digital press, the printing arm of digital
equipment corporation.  They advertised themselves as a publisher of
timely and interesting books for educators and computer professionals,
so I read the ad.  Imagine my surprise and disgust when I discovered
that what they were selling was mostly outdated processor manuals and
catalogs at bestseller prices.  Give me a break.  If I wanted to know
how to interface to a wide variety of terminals, I wouldn't buy a book
that described only DEC hardware, and if I wanted to interface with DEC
hardware, I would certainly not expect to pay $14.95 for the
privilege.  Then there were the books allegedly for use in teaching
operating systems classes that actually were manuals for VMS, RSTS,
etc.  I don't know about you, but I don't consider RSTS, RSX, or VMS to
be the quintessential expression in operating system design, and would
greatly prefer a more general, easier-to-read text than a manual.

Stuff like this should be given away free.  

Always my own opinion, my company buys DEC stuff and likes it fine.
-- 
Kurt Guntheroth
John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc.
{uw-beaver,decvax!microsof,ucbvax!lbl-csam,allegra,ssc-vax}!fluke!kurt

rgh@inmet.UUCP (05/20/84)

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inmet!rgh    May 18 19:22:00 1984

Some of the Digital Press stuff is pretty good.  McNamara's {Technical
Aspects of Data Communication} is the best single book I've seen on
the subject, especially valuable because it details a lot of the
nuts & bolts.  {Computer Engineering: A DEC View of Hardware System
Design} collects many of the original papers on such important
processors as the PDP-8, DEC-10, PDP-11, and VAX.  Their series on the
history of computing has received good reviews.  I suspect the
material you saw was from DECbooks, a division of Digital Press, which does
push the manuals.

		    Not a DECperson,
			    Randy Hudson
			    {harpo, decvax!cca!ima, ihnp4} !inmet!rgh

kurt@fluke.UUCP (Kurt Guntheroth) (05/23/84)

I was the one who posted the original article critical of DEC Press.
It seems that DEC Press does publish some quite worthwhile books, including
the 'History of Computing' series.  I obviously should have narrowed the
scope of my criticism.  I wish the advertisement I received had more of
these worthwhile titles listed and fewer of the old processor manuals.  Why
weren't all the worthwhile titles mentioned?  Sigh.
-- 
Kurt Guntheroth
John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc.
{uw-beaver,decvax!microsof,ucbvax!lbl-csam,allegra,ssc-vax}!fluke!kurt

minow@decvax.UUCP (05/25/84)

Digital Press performs two functions: first, it publishes and
distributes Dec hardware and software manuals for the general
public.  These manuals cost a fair amount to write, print, and
distribute -- and, if a sales engineer gives you a copy, it
is in the hope that it will cause you to buy a computer.

A more important function it performs is as a publisher of
trade books in the computer field.  Some of these have
become classics; John McNamara's Technical Aspects of
Data Communicatins, for example.  One of its specialties
is a series tracing the history of computing.

If you look beyond the processor manuals, you will probably
find a solid collection of well-writen and produced books.
(Take a look at "Games Computers Play", for example.)

Martin Minow
decvax!minow