[net.news.group] rmgroup and Usenet dictators

nickles (12/14/82)

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ihlpb!nickles    Dec 13 16:20:00 1982

An expiration time period on a newsgroup does seem like a good
idea.  But, that time should be flexible.  For example, there
probably is very little activity in net.sport.baseball right
now since the everyone is refinding football.  This is not
true for all groups, but sports in particular are dependant
on the time of the year.  Maybe some groups should just have
an "indefinite" timestamp.  Or maybe a 1 year expiration date
for sports groups.  Certainly faddish groups should expire after
awhile, such as sctv and pacman.  

					Jack Nickles
					ihlpb!nickles

trb (12/14/82)

I think an expiration time on newsgroups is a horrible idea.  Newsgroup
activity is analogous to activity of text pages in a virtual memory
system, if they get used alot, you wanna keep 'em, if they don't get
used and you need the space, you get rid of 'em.

Putting time limits of newsgroups seems analogous to allocating a hunk
of memory for a time quantum (yes, quantum) without knowing how useful
it will be rather than allocating it when you need it and freeing it
when it's no longer needed.

So, class, here is a summary:

   expiration time on groups :: allocating for a time quantum (yecch!)

   sjb'ing your old groups :: manually managing your resource (better)

   netnews automatically cans dead groups :: gc'ing zombie resource (best)

	Andy Tannenbaum   Bell Labs  Whippany, NJ   (201) 386-6491

mclure (03/09/83)

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sri-unix!mclure    Dec  9 03:43:00 1982

***** sri-unix:net.news / mclure /  3:38 am  Dec  9, 1982
The solution is for the notesfile and readnews maintainers (or some
random hackers) to add "automatic deletion" of unused newsgroups to
their software and see that it gets distributed.  Then we would have no
need to argue about potential Usenet dictators. A three-month
timeout on newsgroup life seems reasonable.

	Stuart
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