david@dandelion.CI.COM (David M. Watson) (11/03/87)
In MH 6.5, I use the option '-nocc me' in the repl: line of my .mh_profile, but mail addressed to me from other machines contains a "To:" line that doesn't match repl's simplistic concept of who I really am. For example, when someone sends me mail from the host called amber, repl gets the chance to discard the address "david@amber" found in the "To:" line, but it doesn't know that david@amber is actually me. I see two opportunities to correct this behavior: on the sending side, and in my repl process. If the sender's machine left the "To:" line as the sender typed it (which was "To: david"; sendmail aliased "david" to "david@dandelion" so the message could be sent to me), then my repl would match "david" and suppress the cc to me as I specified. Alternatively, if repl were smart enough to realize that "david@host", where "host" is the name of a machine in the domain .ci.com, was equivalent to "david", then it would suppress the cc to "david@amber". I would guess that the former of the two methods is preferable -- if so, is there any way short of modifying MH to get it not to meddle with the "To:" line? -David Watson Cognition, Inc. (617) 667-4800 Billerica, MA
mayer@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM (Niels Mayer) (11/04/87)
In article <4183@dandelion.CI.COM> david@dandelion.UUCP (David M. Watson) writes: >In MH 6.5, I use the option '-nocc me' in the repl: line of my .mh_profile, >but mail addressed to me from other machines contains a "To:" line that >doesn't match repl's simplistic concept of who I really am. For example, >when someone sends me mail from the host called amber, repl gets the >chance to discard the address "david@amber" found in the "To:" line, >but it doesn't know that david@amber is actually me. The following entry from mh-profile(5) may be of help: Alternate-Mailboxes: mh@uci-750a, bug-mh* Tells repl and scan which addresses are really yours. In this way, repl knows which addresses should be included in the reply, and scan knows if the message really originated from you. Addresses must be separated by a comma, and the hostnames listed should be the official hostnames for the mailboxes you indicate, as local nicknames for hosts are not replaced with their official site names. For each address, if a host is not given, then that address on any host is considered to be you. In addition, an asterisk (`*') may appear at either or both ends of the mailbox and host to indicate wild-card matching. (profile, default: your user-id) Put an alternate-mailbox entry in your .mh_profile and repl and scan will hopefully do what you want, if I understood your question correctly. I am using version MH 6.5Kg #61[UCI] of mh running under HPUX on HP9000S{300,800} series machines. -- Niels Mayer HP Labs.
dave@rosevax.Rosemount.COM (David R. Marquardt) (11/05/87)
In article <4183@dandelion.CI.COM> david@dandelion.UUCP (David M. Watson) writes: >In MH 6.5, I use the option '-nocc me' in the repl: line of my .mh_profile, >but mail addressed to me from other machines contains a "To:" line that >doesn't match repl's simplistic concept of who I really am. For example, >when someone sends me mail from the host called amber, repl gets the >chance to discard the address "david@amber" found in the "To:" line, >but it doesn't know that david@amber is actually me. stuff deleted >I would guess that the former of the two methods is preferable -- if so, >is there any way short of modifying MH to get it not to meddle with the >"To:" line? Yes. Try setting Alternate-Mailboxes in your .mh_profile. For example, my mail is all forwarded to dave@rosesun.rosemount.com, but the main mail machine here is rosevax. Here's my Alternate-Mailboxes: line from my .mh_profile: Alternate-Mailboxes: dave@rosesun, dave@rosevax, rosevax!dave This seems to cover the vast majority of the cases. Oh, I also have -nocc me set for repl. Dave
davy@ea.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave Curry) (11/05/87)
In article <4183@dandelion.CI.COM> david@dandelion.UUCP (David M. Watson) writes: > > >In MH 6.5, I use the option '-nocc me' in the repl: line of my .mh_profile, >but mail addressed to me from other machines contains a "To:" line that >doesn't match repl's simplistic concept of who I really am. For example, >when someone sends me mail from the host called amber, repl gets the >chance to discard the address "david@amber" found in the "To:" line, >but it doesn't know that david@amber is actually me. > >is there any way short of modifying MH to get it not to meddle with the >"To:" line? You can set something in your .mh_profile called "Alternate-Mailboxes", which specifies patterns to math on for addresses. For example, I have the line: Alternate-Mailboxes: davy@*, *pur-ee!davy, archive, netops, uucp This makes davy@anything and anything!pur-ee!davy get considered to be "me". I also receive mail on the system-wide aliases "archive", "netops", and "uucp"; this takes those out too so I don't send myself mail. There are other things you can do with this too (besides using "*"), but I forget where I found the documentation for it, as I was just perusing the MH docs at the time. I know it's in the on-line man pages; maybe in section 5? --Dave Curry
billr@tekred.TEK.COM (Bill Randle) (11/05/87)
I have the same problem. In addition I have other mail aliases in addition to my normal login name (e.g. billr@tekred, games@tekred). I tried using the "Alternate-Mailboxes:" entry in my .mh_profile file [see mh_profile(5)] as it seems to imply that it will handle this, but it doesn't seem to work. I'd be interested if anyone has any good suggestions. -Bill Randle Tektronix, Inc. billr@tekred.TEK.COM
goldberg@russell.STANFORD.EDU (Jeffrey Goldberg) (11/06/87)
Aternate-Mailboxes doesn't seem to work for me either. Could someone who claims that this works post the relevent parts of their .mh_profile, their current MH version and configuration, and their replcomps file? -Thanks. -- Jeff Goldberg ARPA goldberg@russell.stanford.edu UUCP ...!ucbvax!russell.stanford.edu!goldberg
dave@rosevax.Rosemount.COM (David R. Marquardt) (11/08/87)
In article <604@russell.STANFORD.EDU> goldberg@russell.UUCP (Jeffrey Goldberg) writes: >Aternate-Mailboxes doesn't seem to work for me either. Could >someone who claims that this works post the relevent parts of their >.mh_profile, their current MH version and configuration, and their >replcomps file? Okay. I'm running MH 6.5. Here's my entire .mh_profile: Path: Mail Editor: /usr/ucb/vi showproc: /usr/local/bin/less repl: -filter reply.filter -nocc me Alternate-Mailboxes: dave@rosesun*, dave@rosevax*, *rosevax!dave Works great for me. Dave
sharat@cvl.umd.edu (S. Chandran) (11/11/87)
In article <3052@rosevax.Rosemount.COM> dave@rosevax.Rosemount.COM (David R. Marquardt) writes: >In article <604@russell.STANFORD.EDU> goldberg@russell.UUCP (Jeffrey Goldberg) writes: >>Aternate-Mailboxes doesn't seem to work for me either. Could >Okay. I'm running MH 6.5. Here's my entire .mh_profile: > >Path: Mail >Editor: /usr/ucb/vi >showproc: /usr/local/bin/less >repl: -filter reply.filter -nocc me >Alternate-Mailboxes: dave@rosesun*, dave@rosevax*, *rosevax!dave > >Works great for me. > Perhaps I am goofing, but since Dave has no 'cc' option, repl figures out who he is via Alternate-Mailboxes and doesn't cc him. What I (and I suspect others) want is repl to 'cc' me, but not to do this more than once. Usually my mail ends being "To foo@bar; cc:sharat@cvl, sharat@cvl". I can't seem to be able to do this via Alternate-Mailboxes.
thomas@spline.UUCP (11/12/87)
I just tried the following combo:
Alternate-Mailboxes: thomas@utah*, *!spline!thomas, spline!thomas@utah*, thomas@gr.utah.edu, thomas@cs.utah.edu, thomas@spline.utah*, thomas@spline, thomas@gr, thomas@cs
repl: -nocc me -cc me
I seem to get only one cc to me ('thomas'), no matter how I appeared
in the envelope. If I am doing a '-nocc all' reply, I don't appear at
all in the list. Seems to do just what I usually want, anyway.
=Spencer ({ihnp4,decvax}!utah-cs!thomas, thomas@cs.utah.edu)karlton@decwrl.dec.com (Philip Karlton) (11/14/87)
Well I just tried this in my .my_profile repl: -cc all -nocc me -cc me Alternate-Mailboxes: karlton, decwrl!karlton and a message that came in with From: site!person To: decwrl!karlton generated in the outgoing message To: site!person cc: decwrl!karlton, karlton What should I have in my repl: line so that I won't get decwrl!karlton in it while still getting karlton? PK
pokey@well.UUCP (Jef Poskanzer) (11/15/87)
In the referenced article, karlton@decwrl.UUCP (Philip Karlton) wrote: }Well I just tried this in my .my_profile } repl: -cc all -nocc me -cc me } Alternate-Mailboxes: karlton, decwrl!karlton }and a message that came in with } From: site!person } To: decwrl!karlton }generated in the outgoing message } To: site!person } cc: decwrl!karlton, karlton }What should I have in my repl: line so that I won't get decwrl!karlton in it }while still getting karlton? Hmm, perhaps the -cc me negates the -nocc me. I've seen other silliness along these lines in MH before. Suggestion: get rid of the -cc me and put "Fcc: +outbox" in all your comps files. This is more convenient and faster anyway. --- Jef Jef Poskanzer {hoptoad,hplabs,lll-lcc,ptsfa}!well!pokey
billr@tekred.TEK.COM (Bill Randle) (11/19/87)
I may have found the reason that Alternate-Mailboxes doesn't work for me: we have version 5.13[UCI/UCB] of mh and the documentation describes version 6.1. Maybe somewon with more knowledge could tell us if the alternate mailbox stuff works in version 5. ["repl -help" displays the version number.]
indra@amdcad.AMD.COM (Indra Singhal) (11/25/87)
In article <4449@well.UUCP> pokey@well.UUCP (Jef Poskanzer) writes: > >Hmm, perhaps the -cc me negates the -nocc me. I've seen other >silliness along these lines in MH before. Suggestion: get rid of >the -cc me and put "Fcc: +outbox" in all your comps files. This >is more convenient and faster anyway. >--- Excuse my ignorance... would you please elaborate as to where I should put Fcc: +outbox ? (I am really new to MH) thanks. Indra Singhal amdcad!indra@decwrl.dYRdaysd
indra@amdcad.AMD.COM (Indra Singhal) (11/26/87)
>In article <4449@well.UUCP> pokey@well.UUCP (Jef Poskanzer) writes: >> >>Hmm, perhaps the -cc me negates the -nocc me. I've seen other >>silliness along these lines in MH before. Suggestion: get rid of >>the -cc me and put "Fcc: +outbox" in all your comps files. This >>is more convenient and faster anyway. >>--- >Excuse my ignorance... would you please elaborate as to where I >should put Fcc: +outbox ? (I am really new to MH) thanks. I figured it out: in my .mh_profile I put: repl: -fcc +outbox -nocc all to achieve what I was looking for. Now, since 'comp' does not support the -fcc switch, will some one tell me how to do some thing similar ? Indra. amdcad!indra
pb1v+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Patrick Barron) (11/27/87)
I figured it out: in my .mh_profile I put: repl: -fcc +outbox -nocc all to achieve what I was looking for. Now, since 'comp' does not support the -fcc switch, will some one tell me how to do some thing similar ? You need to have a file called "components" in your MH Mail directory that includes the "Fcc:" header. My components file looks like: To:# Subject:# Fcc: +blind_copy (where the '#' character represents a trailing space.) You can have a "replcomps" file and a "distcomps" file to affect the headers for the "repl" and "dist" commands, respectively. --Pat.