[net.news.group] gatewaying USENET groups with ARPANET mailing lists

ka (04/12/83)

There are two ways of making ARPANET mailing lists available to USENET.
One is the group use of an "fa.all" group.  The other is to gateway the
mailing list directly into a "net.all" group.

The advantage of the latter approach is that it makes the group look
exactly like a regular newsgroup.  The problem is that it differs from
a regular newsgroup in one important respect:  to the best of my know-
ledge there is no way to reply to one of these articles.  A while back
somebody confessed that they always used the followup command to reply
because they had been having too many problems with mail.  I suspect
that the problem is that he tried to reply to articles gatewayed from
the Arpanet too many times and finally gave up using the reply command
even on normal groups.

The "fa.all" groups, on the other hand, are clearly marked as not being
normal groups.  Furthermore, articles are frequently grouped by subject
by the moderator and messages such as "Please remove me from this mailing
list" are deleted.

The biggest argument against the "fa.all" method of gatewaying is that
people prefer to see their articles individually.  However, release 2.10
will deals with this problem by providing a "digest" command to break
digests into individual articles.

In short, I vote for the "fa.all" method of gatewaying ARPANET mailing
lists.  Comments?
					Kenneth Almquist
					harpo!houxm!spanky!ka

msc (04/13/83)

	I vote for putting Arpanet news into fa.all newsgroups. Attempts
	to followup to fa.all messages can be blocked (and are at this site)
	by the recording mechanism which suggests you mail direct to the
	gateway (eg ucbvax!info-term).  Also most of these groups are in
	digest form and the editor has got rid of annoying messages
	about add/drop from the list etc.  News 2.10, as was mentioned,
	will get rid of the problem of having to scan a lenthgy digest
	to find articles of interest.

	However, I wish the generous people who act as gateways would
	make sure that only one copy of an article gets through the
	gateway.  We often receive multiple copies of the fa digests.
	fa.human-nets (from brl??) seems to be the worst offender. We
	always seem to receive 2 & 2/3 copies of this digest. (This has
	just happened with digest V6 #23).  fa.telecom is another group
	from which we receive multiple copies.  The digests are so long
	that multiple copies really waste disk space, cpu time and
	transmission time.

				Mark Callow
				...{decvax,ucbvax}!decwrl!qubix!msc
				...ittvax!qubix!msc
				decwrl!qubix!msc@Berkeley.ARPA