[comp.sys.sgi] 2400 Turbo

RAAS@APLVM.BITNET (Randy Schrickel) (04/22/89)

Could someone please give me a definitve answer on this?

Is sgi going to release a 4sight/X windows/"something other than mex
windowing system" for the 2400 Turbos? At Siggraph 88, sgi said no.
At a local users group meeting (maybe a year ago) they said no. Now
someone at work tells me sgi says yes! Does anyone know the truth?
If the answer is yes, we would like to (memory) upgrade our systems
while we still can, and before the new OS comes out.

Thanx in advance.

Randy Schrickel
Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab

blbates@AERO4.LARC.NASA.GOV ("Brent L. Bates TAD/TAB ms294 x42854") (04/22/89)

     The last I heard was "Maybe" on 4Sight/X windows.  We are getting
more memory just in case.  Besides the more memory will help us even
if we don't get 4Sight/X.
--

	Brent L. Bates
	NASA-Langley Research Center
	M.S. 294
	Hampton, Virginia  23665-5225
	(804) 864-2854
	E-mail: blbates@aero4.larc.nasa.gov or blbates@aero2.larc.nasa.gov

fsfacca@LERC08.NAS.NASA.GOV (Tony Facca) (04/24/89)

> Is sgi going to release a 4sight/X windows/"something other than mex
> windowing system" for the 2400 Turbos? At Siggraph 88, sgi said no.
> At a local users group meeting (maybe a year ago) they said no. Now
> someone at work tells me sgi says yes! Does anyone know the truth?
> If the answer is yes, we would like to (memory) upgrade our systems
> while we still can, and before the new OS comes out.


The answer I got was "these are mature products, we do not plan any further
enhancements to the OS".  This was about 3 months ago, so things in the
Valley may have changed..

Tony Facca

msc@ramoth.SGI.COM (Mark Callow) (05/06/89)

In article <8904211549.aa07442@SMOKE.BRL.MIL>, RAAS@APLVM.BITNET (Randy Schrickel) writes:
> 
> Could someone please give me a definitve answer on this?
> 
> Is sgi going to release a 4sight/X windows/"something other than mex
> windowing system" for the 2400 Turbos? At Siggraph 88, sgi said no.
> At a local users group meeting (maybe a year ago) they said no. Now
> someone at work tells me sgi says yes! Does anyone know the truth?
> If the answer is yes, we would like to (memory) upgrade our systems
> while we still can, and before the new OS comes out.

This is a touchy subject and I don't know how best to answer it.  The
facts are:

	1.  SGI has decided to provide its customers with a new software
	    release for the 3xxx series machines.  We (Engineering) have
	    been told that this release is for bug fixes only.  No new
	    functionality is being allowed.

	2.  We have 4Sight (sans X) running on the 3xxx machines.
	    It's now several versions behind the 4D.  We made substantial
	    kernel changes to support 4Sight but given #1, we have no way
	    of putting those changes into a release.  The kernel needed
	    for 4Sight contains unrelated changes that require new versions
	    of certain system tools.

	    To make a release, we would have to bring 4Sight up-to-date
	    and also extensively test the entire system to ensure none
	    of the changes were detrimental.  Frankly, my group just
	    doesn't have the resources to support a release of the 3xxx
	    version of 4Sight even if the company were planning a 3xxx
	    release containing new functionality.
--
	-Mark