meuer@umn-cs.CS.UMN.EDU (Mark V. Meuer) (11/18/89)
How can I get a directory view that has been opened in the WorkSpace to re-sync itself with its directory? What happens is that I'll open a view, call up the editor from that view and create a new file from within the editor and write it to disk. Unfortunately, the file does not show up as an icon in the view unless I kill the view and re-open a new one for the directory. We are running 3.2 IRIX. It think that the 3.2 beta version we had would automatically sync the views. Thanks for any help! -mark -- Mark Meuer | 1200 Washington Ave. So. Geometry Supercomputer Project | Minneapolis, MN 55415 meuer@geom.umn.edu | (612) 624-1867
betsy@vesuvius.esd.sgi.com (Betsy Zeller) (11/21/89)
There is something very wrong with your workspace, if your directory views
are not staying *perfectly* up to date with your file system. Can you
please check a few things for me.
1. Make sure that the new file is not appearing out of sight
when you create it -- new files appear at the end of the directory
view.
2. do a ps -ef | grep fam, and see if anything comes up
3. check the permissions on the directory that is giving you
problems, and pass that information on to me
4. Open a directory view on another directory, and see if you
have the same kind of problem there.
5. (Not that this should make any difference ) Is this directory
NFS mounted?
Any information that you can send me will be appreciated. Please keep me
posted as to what you find out. The WorkSpace is supposed to accurately
track the filesystem, and up till now ( as far as I know ), it has been
doing so.
Betsy Zeller
betsy@sgi.comrobert@shangri-la.gatech.edu (Robert Viduya) (11/22/89)
> > There is something very wrong with your workspace, if your directory views > are not staying *perfectly* up to date with your file system. Can you > please check a few things for me. > 1. Make sure that the new file is not appearing out of sight > when you create it -- new files appear at the end of the directory > view. > > 2. do a ps -ef | grep fam, and see if anything comes up > > 3. check the permissions on the directory that is giving you > problems, and pass that information on to me > > 4. Open a directory view on another directory, and see if you > have the same kind of problem there. > > 5. (Not that this should make any difference ) Is this directory > NFS mounted? > Actually, NFS mounts do make a difference. The fam daemon runs as root and if you've got a NFS directory open in the workspace that has modes of something like 0700, and the NFS server has the filesystem exported WITHOUT root access, root will NOT be able to see into that directory. The effect that we've noticed here when that situation occurs is that on the initial open of the directory from the workspace all the files in that directory appear for a split second and then disappear. I reported this problem to the hot-line (problem number B3520) and was told that, yes, it was a problem and that, no, SGI wouldn't fix it. I've had to resort to telling my users that if they want to be able to access their files from the workspace, they need to make them publicly available for everyone else to access. robert -- Robert Viduya robert@shangri-la.gatech.edu Office of Computing Services Georgia Institute of Technology (404) 894-6296 Atlanta, Georgia 30332-0275
betsy@vesuvius.esd.sgi.com (Betsy Zeller) (11/23/89)
>Actually, NFS mounts do make a difference. The fam daemon runs as root and >if you've got a NFS directory open in the workspace that has modes of something >like 0700, and the NFS server has the filesystem exported WITHOUT root access, >root will NOT be able to see into that directory. The effect that we've noticed >here when that situation occurs is that on the initial open of the directory >from the workspace all the files in that directory appear for a split second >and then disappear. > >I reported this problem to the hot-line (problem number B3520) and was told >that, yes, it was a problem and that, no, SGI wouldn't fix it. I've had to >resort to telling my users that if they want to be able to access their files >from the workspace, they need to make them publicly available for everyone else >to access. > I think that there has been a slight problem in communication here. It is clear that when you open a directory view that you have permission to access, you should see the files in it without their icons disappearing. This problem will be addressed in a future release. One problem that is currently impeding me from addressing it is that I cannot reproduce it. All combinations that I have tried of exporting/mounting directories over nfs have worked fine. It would be a great help if you could email me i) the contents of /etc/exports referring to the troublesome directories ii) the appropriate lines from /etc/fstab iii) has anyone had this problem when the NFS mounts were only between SGI machines The fam daemon will continue to run as root, because more than one WorkSpace can be run at a time, and the fam daemon must serve them all. There are, however, other ways around the problem and we will continue to investigate them. Betsy Zeller betsy@sgi.com