[comp.sys.sgi] X11R4

loan@Neon.Stanford.EDU (James P. Loan) (01/04/90)

I hate to force the issue and sound pushy, but...

Now that X11 R4 is out and multiplying, is there any indication
as to if and when SGI will implement and support it, so that
the "X Window Development Environment" they sell will contain it?

I'm about to start a major project under X, and it would be
awfully unfortunate to get most of the way through it with R3
only to find out R4 is just being released.

thanks in advance,

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chk@alias.UUCP (C. Harald Koch) (01/05/90)

In article <1990Jan4.002745.1079@Neon.Stanford.EDU> loan@Neon.Stanford.EDU (James P. Loan) writes:
>Now that X11 R4 is out and multiplying, is there any indication
>as to if and when SGI will implement and support it, so that
>the "X Window Development Environment" they sell will contain it?

Who cares? :-)

It is my experience that the X11R3 distribution from MIT compiles and runs
successfully on 4Ds. It is highly likely that the X11R4 distribution will do
the same.

This means that you can get X11R4 right away, *and* you have source so you
can fix things...

Of course if you don't have time or energy to support X yourself, then you
will have to wait for SGI to get around to porting and testing R4.

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moraes@cs.toronto.edu (Mark Moraes) (01/05/90)

chk@alias.UUCP (C. Harald Koch) writes:
>Who cares? :-)

We don't care either, but some people don't want to go near Imakefiles
with 10 metre bargepoles :-)

>This means that you can get X11R4 right away, *and* you have source so you
>can fix things...

Some people don't want to go near the source code with 10 metre barge
poles :-) It's much nicer to pay your vendor money to worry about the
problems for you, no? Us, we're crazy -- we like source code...

>Of course if you don't have time or energy to support X yourself, then you
>will have to wait for SGI to get around to porting and testing R4.

Make that time, energy and disk space. Lots of disk space.  The full
source distribution for R4 clocks in at 150M of source. Probably add
another 150M if you want to compile it. Of course, of the src, only 45M
is the MIT supported distribution (which is what SGI would probably
supply, anyway)

But there's a lot of interesting stuff in the 105M of contrib --
clients, and toolkits -- especially Andrew and InterViews.

	Mark
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Quick!! Lock up your disks. Hide any free space..... A new version
of X is coming!  A new version of X is coming....." -- anonymous member
of CSRI systems staff, on hearing of the imminent release of X.V11R4

mike@cfdl.larc.nasa.gov (Mike Walker) (01/06/90)

As stated, you can use the MIT R4 sources for clients et all...but you
still need the SGI R4 server if you want to run them on your Iris. So,
again, any hints as to when??

Mike
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bobf@BLUMIRIS.CHEM.UMR.EDU ("Robert B. Funchess") (03/08/90)

OK... emboldened by the success of recent posters in building the MIT X
distribution, I tried it... but apparently I am doing something wrong. 
"make World" gets as far as "making in ./server..." before it dies with the msg
sh: syntax error at line 3: ';' unexpected
"make clean" gives exactly the same error message, at exactly the same place.
What am I doing wrong?  I can't find an unexpected ';', the command on which it
occurs looks exactly like a previous one which works fine...
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gw18@prism.gatech.EDU (Williams, Greg) (08/03/90)

This is Yet Another Request for information on getting X11R4 to run on a
Personal Iris running Irix 3.2.  I would have read the previous articles
concerning this issue if they hadn't been expired on our system.

I need to be able to write a graphics application using R4 on a PI.  I know
that a server is included with Irix 3.2.  Can I compile the R4 libraries and
use them with the server that is included?  Any and all information regarding
getting R4 working on the PI would be appreciated.  Send me mail as I don't
normally read this group, and most people here have heard the R4 stories
anyway.  :-)