krk@cs.purdue.EDU (Kevin Kuehl) (07/13/90)
This may seem like a silly question, but how do you get IRIX
3.3? We have software support on our two 4D/20's and two 4D/25's, and
we thought we would automatically be sent the upgrade. Do we
specifically have to ask for it or should we have received it already?
Thanks,
Kevin
krk@cs.purdue.edu
...!{gatech,ucbvax,uunet}!purdue!krkshj@ultra.com (Steve Jay) (07/14/90)
In <11056@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> krk@cs.purdue.EDU (Kevin Kuehl) writes: > This may seem like a silly question, but how do you get IRIX >3.3? We have software support on our two 4D/20's and two 4D/25's, and >we thought we would automatically be sent the upgrade. Do we >specifically have to ask for it or should we have received it already? I was told by an SGI person, who appears to know what's going on, that 3.3 is NOT a "push" release. This means 3.3 will be sent only to those who ask for it, or those who are on record with SGI has having bugs that are fixed in 3.3. I'm not sure of the procedure for asking for it. I'd try calling the hotline/helpline (or whatever it's called), and then contact your local salesperson if that doesn't work. Steve Jay shj@ultra.com ...ames!ultra!shj Ultra Network Technologies / 101 Dagget Drive / San Jose, CA 95134 / USA (408) 922-0100 x130 "Home of the 1 Gigabit/Second network"
dhinds@portia.Stanford.EDU (David Hinds) (07/14/90)
In article <1990Jul13.192925.1898@ultra.com> shj@ultra.com (Steve Jay) writes: >I was told by an SGI person, who appears to know what's going on, that 3.3 >is NOT a "push" release. This means 3.3 will be sent only to those who ask >for it, or those who are on record with SGI has having bugs that are fixed >in 3.3. I called the SGI hotline, and they told me that 3.3 was going to ship in August. I'm confused - there seem to be quite a few people who have had it for a while, judging by the messages posted here. To those of you who do have it: how did you get it? Can anyone from SGI comment on this? -David Hinds dhinds@cbiris.stanford.edu
aihaug@AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM (Daniel A Haug) (07/14/90)
From article <1990Jul13.204439.19295@portia.Stanford.EDU>, by dhinds@portia.Stanford.EDU (David Hinds): > > I called the SGI hotline, and they told me that 3.3 was going to ship > in August. I'm confused - there seem to be quite a few people who have > had it for a while, judging by the messages posted here. [...] This is not unusual by my experience. We typically get our update six months after everyone else [or so it seems]... dan haug -- Internet: haug@austin.lockheed.com UUCP: ut-emx!lad-shrike!aihaug Phone: (512) 448-5634
zyda@TROUBLE.CS.NPS.NAVY.MIL (michael zyda) (07/15/90)
3.3 comes with VGX upgrades and VGX systems. That's why some
people have it.
mzktureski@alias.uucp (Kevin Tureski) (07/16/90)
IRIX 3.3 is indeed required and shipped on VGX machines. And on them, it is relatively stable (as stable as 3.2 is on a GTX, for example). We are a beta site for IRIX 3.3 and are running it on machines other than just VGX's. We have identified several incompatibilities between executables compiled under 3.2 and run under 3.3. SGI is committed to fixing these problems, and are doing an excellent job of tracking the issues. If you're using anything other than a VGX, you are probably better off waiting for the general release in August. It's my understanding that this will be known as IRIX 3.3.1, but I don't work for SGI, so don't quote me on that :-) Kevin Tureski Director, Systems Integration Alias Research Inc. 110 Richmond St E. Toronto Canada M5C 1P1 416 362-9181 ktureski%alias@csri.utoronto.ca ktureski@alias.uucp
dunlap@bigboote.sgi.com (D. Christopher Dunlap) (07/16/90)
In article <1990Jul13.192925.1898@ultra.com> shj@ultra.com (Steve Jay) writes: >In <11056@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> krk@cs.purdue.EDU (Kevin Kuehl) writes: > >> This may seem like a silly question, but how do you get IRIX >>3.3? We have software support on our two 4D/20's and two 4D/25's, and >>we thought we would automatically be sent the upgrade. Do we >>specifically have to ask for it or should we have received it already? > >I was told by an SGI person, who appears to know what's going on, that 3.3 >is NOT a "push" release. This means 3.3 will be sent only to those who ask >for it, or those who are on record with SGI has having bugs that are fixed >in 3.3. > >I'm not sure of the procedure for asking for it. I'd try calling >the hotline/helpline (or whatever it's called), and then contact your >local salesperson if that doesn't work. > >Steve Jay >shj@ultra.com ...ames!ultra!shj >Ultra Network Technologies / 101 Dagget Drive / San Jose, CA 95134 / USA >(408) 922-0100 x130 "Home of the 1 Gigabit/Second network" As mentioned in another posting, certain hardware requires 3.3, and that's often the reason someone has a copy already. Also, certain developers and OEMs, known as Geometry Partners, get distribution earlier than everyone else. We also have a contractual obligation to our Geometry Partners to give them time to check out their code on the new release. All customers with appropriate service contracts with Silicon Graphics will be getting distribution of the 3.3 release. All of the factory production lines will also roll to the 3.3 release. Anyone who does not have a service contract with SGI will have to purchase the update. Hope that helps. chris D. Christopher Dunlap Product Support Customer Support Division email: dunlap@sgi.com Silicon Graphics Computer Systems
molenda@s1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda) (07/17/90)
aihaug@AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM (Daniel A Haug) writes: >From article <1990Jul13.204439.19295@portia.Stanford.EDU>, by dhinds@portia.Stanford.EDU (David Hinds): >> >> I called the SGI hotline, and they told me that 3.3 was going to ship >> in August. I'm confused - there seem to be quite a few people who have >> had it for a while, judging by the messages posted here. [...] >This is not unusual by my experience. We typically get our update six >months after everyone else [or so it seems]... We called our local rep and they had the distribution tapes at their office and let us borrow them to do the upgrade. I'd say try your local office... Officially, I guess the upgrade won't be shipping until some time in August (like David Hinds said). Jason Molenda, Minnesota Supercomputer Institute molenda@msi.umn.edu
blbates@AERO4.LARC.NASA.GOV ("Brent L. Bates AAD/TAB MS361 x42854") (07/17/90)
We bought a new VGX machine and it came with 3.3 and I think the VGX machines ONLY work with 3.3 (or higher :-)). -- Brent L. Bates NASA-Langley Research Center M.S. 361 Hampton, Virginia 23665-5225 (804) 864-2854 E-mail: blbates@aero4.larc.nasa.gov or blbates@aero2.larc.nasa.gov
dunlap@bigboote.sgi.com (D. Christopher Dunlap) (07/18/90)
In article <1990Jul16.194008.17038@s1.msi.umn.edu> molenda@s1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda) writes: >aihaug@AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM (Daniel A Haug) writes: > >>From article <1990Jul13.204439.19295@portia.Stanford.EDU>, by dhinds@portia.Stanford.EDU (David Hinds): >>> >>> I called the SGI hotline, and they told me that 3.3 was going to ship >>> in August. I'm confused - there seem to be quite a few people who have >>> had it for a while, judging by the messages posted here. [...] > >>This is not unusual by my experience. We typically get our update six >>months after everyone else [or so it seems]... > >We called our local rep and they had the distribution tapes at their office >and let us borrow them to do the upgrade. I'd say try your local office... >Officially, I guess the upgrade won't be shipping until some time in >August (like David Hinds said). > >Jason Molenda, Minnesota Supercomputer Institute >molenda@msi.umn.edu The concern I'd have with this is that MOST people are going to want the 3.3 release for it's new features, and the new features are going to be close to useless to you without documentation. Of course, I'm a particularly interested party in this discussion, since often times people without documentation will use the Geometry Hotline as "live documentation", which is rather frustrating for the staff here, all of whom are much more interested in solving problems than doing "over the phone tutorials" (as I'm sure you all can imagine). So please bear with us. Assuming you have a Support Contract with SGI, you will get your distribution Real Soon Now, so hang in there a few weeks and you'll get the whole package, docs and all. By the way, What does everyone think so far of the "Pipeline" Technical Support Newsletter? Please send responses to "pipeline@csd.sgi.com". Also, the new issue is out. If you haven't got it, you should see it in the next week. thanks much, chris D. Christopher Dunlap Product Support Engineering Customer Support Division email: dunlap@sgi.com Silicon Graphics Computer Systems
dunlap@bigboote.sgi.com (D. Christopher Dunlap) (07/18/90)
In article <9007161955.AA01576@aero4.larc.nasa.gov> blbates@AERO4.LARC.NASA.GOV ("Brent L. Bates AAD/TAB MS361 x42854") writes: > > We bought a new VGX machine and it came with 3.3 and I think >the VGX machines ONLY work with 3.3 (or higher :-)). >-- > > Brent L. Bates > NASA-Langley Research Center > M.S. 361 > Hampton, Virginia 23665-5225 > (804) 864-2854 > E-mail: blbates@aero4.larc.nasa.gov or blbates@aero2.larc.nasa.gov Yes, you are exactly correct. chris D. Christopher Dunlap Product Support Engineering Customer Support Division email: dunlap@sgi.com Silicon Graphics Computer Systems
jcmiller@hydra.unm.edu (Jeff Miller) (08/22/90)
Just a quick question about 3.3:
I was interested in upgrading a 4D/20 system from 3.10 to 3.3 in a
couple of weeks and was wondering if anyone has had trouble installing the
new release on such a system. (hardware incompatibilities, etc.)
My system configuration:
Main unit
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IP6 motherboard:
8Meg RAM
Floating point option
Archive Viper 150 (2150S) tape backup
CDC 94171-344 SCSI hard drive
GR1.1 graphics board:
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GR1 Rev E
Z-buffer option
Bit plane option
I have heard about 3.3 not working on some PI's. Hopefully, it will work
with my current configuration. 8-)
Thanks in advance for any information!!
jcmiller@hydra.unm.edu
**** I think not, therefore I am not...I think... ****fsfacca@AVELON.LERC.NASA.GOV (Tony Facca) (08/22/90)
> Just a quick question about 3.3: > > I was interested in upgrading a 4D/20 system from 3.10 to 3.3 in a > couple of weeks and was wondering if anyone has had trouble installing the > new release on such a system. (hardware incompatibilities, etc.) > I have installed 3.3 successfully on a 4D/25TG without any trouble. I would expect it to work just as well on your system. But your situation raises another interesting question: Is it possible to upgrade from 3.1 to 3.3 without first installing 3.2? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Facca | fsfacca@avelon.lerc.nasa.gov | phone: 216-433-8318 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are at Witt's end. Passages lead off in *all* directions.
bobg@rains.wpd.sgi.com (Bob Green) (08/23/90)
In article <9008221422.AA06698@avelon.lerc.nasa.gov>, fsfacca@AVELON.LERC.NASA.GOV (Tony Facca) writes: > > I have installed 3.3 successfully on a 4D/25TG without any trouble. I would > expect it to work just as well on your system. But your situation raises > another interesting question: Is it possible to upgrade from 3.1 to 3.3 > without first installing 3.2? > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tony Facca | fsfacca@avelon.lerc.nasa.gov | phone: 216-433-8318 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > You are at Witt's end. Passages lead off in *all* directions. Yes, 4D1-3.3 is designed to install over any previous system software distribution from 4D1-2.0 through 4D1-3.3 itself. Bob