[comp.sys.sgi] Second Graphics Console

rnelson@eecs.wsu.edu (Roger Nelson - Grad Student) (01/28/91)

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To what extent is it possible to add a second graphics console to a 4D/60T.

For example would it be possible to ethernet a NeXT station and run
WorkSpace and other NeWS based applications on it? What about with an
X windows terminal?

Has anyone done this sort of thing?

If this isn't possible now, will it be when IRIX goes X in 4.0?

Thanks for any info.

Roger Nelson      rnelson@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu

portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) (01/28/91)

>>>>> On 27 Jan 91 21:10:11 GMT, rnelson@eecs.wsu.edu (Roger Nelson - Grad Student) said:

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> To what extent is it possible to add a second graphics console to a 4D/60T.

> For example would it be possible to ethernet a NeXT station and run
> WorkSpace and other NeWS based applications on it? What about with an
> X windows terminal?

You cannot run WorkSpace anywhere else except the graphics console of
the IRIS.  It uses the Graphics Library for all of its imaging.  It
was also my impression that the NeXT station supported Display
PostScript, not NeWS.  It might be hard getting a NeWS application to
run there.

You can use an X terminal with an IRIS just as you would with any
other computer system.  The X engineers here at SGI all have X
terminals attached to their machines and routinely display X apps on
them.

> Has anyone done this sort of thing?

See above.

> If this isn't possible now, will it be when IRIX goes X in 4.0?

It's possible now, for X11 based clients.

m.
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portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) (01/29/91)

>>>>> On 29 Jan 91 14:05:07 GMT, jit@SLIC.CELLBIO.DUKE.EDU (Jit Keong Tan) said:

> portuesi@sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) said:

>> You cannot run WorkSpace anywhere else except the graphics console of
>> the IRIS.  It uses the Graphics Library for all of its imaging.  It
>> was also my impression that the NeXT station supported Display
>> PostScript, not NeWS.  It might be hard getting a NeWS application to
>> run there.

>> You can use an X terminal with an IRIS just as you would with any
>> other computer system.

> Does this imply that IRIX 4.0 will be able to handle a second console
> because the window server will be X window and that NeWS will be
> a client running on top of X window ?

There will be no NeWS server in IRIX 4.0.  The X server in IRIX 4.0
will allow you to have multiple multiple displays running off the same
server.

m.
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\/  Michael Portuesi   Silicon Graphics, Inc.   portuesi@sgi.com

"Long before one is anything like drunk, the tongue is loosened,
 and words may slip out which should never have been said.  Watch
 this particularly when it's all girls together.  That femimine urge
 to confide may trick you into repeating what your husband said about
 the president and the boss's wife and how that had a lot to do with
 the boss's promotion -- words one of the women present is sure to
 make you regret some day."

	--Nina Fischer, "How to Help Your Husband Get Ahead"
	part of the Amy Vanderbilt Success Program for Women

jit@SLIC.CELLBIO.DUKE.EDU (Jit Keong Tan) (01/29/91)

portuesi@sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) said:

> You cannot run WorkSpace anywhere else except the graphics console of
> the IRIS.  It uses the Graphics Library for all of its imaging.  It
> was also my impression that the NeXT station supported Display
> PostScript, not NeWS.  It might be hard getting a NeWS application to
> run there.


> You can use an X terminal with an IRIS just as you would with any
> other computer system.

Does this imply that IRIX 4.0 will be able to handle a second console
because the window server will be X window and that NeWS will be
a client running on top of X window ?



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tristram@conan.asd.sgi.com (01/30/91)

In article <PORTUESI.91Jan29123046@tweezers.esd.sgi.com> portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) writes:

   >>>>> On 29 Jan 91 14:05:07 GMT, jit@SLIC.CELLBIO.DUKE.EDU (Jit Keong Tan) said:

   > portuesi@sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) said:

   >> You can use an X terminal with an IRIS just as you would with any
   >> other computer system.

   > Does this imply that IRIX 4.0 will be able to handle a second console
   > because the window server will be X window and that NeWS will be
   > a client running on top of X window ?

   There will be no NeWS server in IRIX 4.0.  The X server in IRIX 4.0
   will allow you to have multiple multiple displays running off the same
   server.

It is also likely that future hardware will someday support multiple
consoles, ie. multiple (or at least two) graphics pipelines and
display monitors running from the same Iris, but that is not part of
IRIX 4.0.

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jsw@xhead.esd.sgi.com (Jeff Weinstein) (01/30/91)

> It is also likely that future hardware will someday support multiple
> consoles, ie. multiple (or at least two) graphics pipelines and
> display monitors running from the same Iris, but that is not part of
> IRIX 4.0.

  This is not true.  SGI sells a multi-headed Personal IRIS.  The
cpu and graphics boards are VME and reside in a the same chasis as
the 4D85.  You can have up to 4 Personal IRIS graphics boards in
such a system.  The support for multiple displays in IRIX 3.3 is
rather poor, only running the window system on the first screen and
specially coded GL programs on the other screens.  IRIX 4.0 should
give full support for X and GL on all screens for this machine.

	--Jeff

Jeff Weinstein - X Protocol Police
Silicon Graphics, Inc., Entry Systems Division, Window Systems
jsw@xhead.esd.sgi.com
Any opinions expressed above are mine, not sgi's.