aspgpas@cidsv01.cid.aes.doe.CA (Peter Silva) (04/26/91)
As a sysadm of a bunch of Irises, I am frustrated from time to time because I never know what anyone out there really calls the products I work with. We bought our equipment through CDC, and the marketing types make the CDC name appear everywhere (except on the first page of the manuals, where the copyright is attributed to SGI). So, I have no idea what the heck we have. If anyone perceives this as a flame to CDC, They're right. I can understand them wanting users to think they are using bona fide CDC products, but I think that if someone _asks_ for such information, it _should_ be easily at hand. Marketing should not prevail over commmon sense. I would appreciate any documentation which would answer these questions from them first, but it doesn't appear to be available (I have talked to several CDC field support people) I would like to know what SGI calls these machines so that I can talk to people (who know about SGI's) about them, understand the when posts are relevant to me (do I have any 4D/35s ????) and look into acquiring RAM or peripherals from third parties, etc... If someone has a summary of the SGI product line (with descriptions) over the last couple of years, I could probably piece together the story myself. If that isn't available, Here's the CDC name and corresponding hinv for what we have: CDC Cyber 910-437 1 12 MHZ IP6 Processor FPU: MIPS R2010A/R3010 VLSI Floating Point Chip Revision: 1.5 CPU: MIPS R2000A/R3000 Processor Chip Revision: 1.6 Data cache size: 8 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Main memory size: 8 Mbytes Integral Ethernet controller: Version 0 Graphics board: GR1.2 Bit-plane option installed Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93 Tape drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0: QIC 150 Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 my guess is a 4D/2? CDC Cyber 910-460 1 20 MHZ IP6 Processor FPU: MIPS R2010A/R3010 VLSI Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.0 CPU: MIPS R2000A/R3000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 Data cache size: 32 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 64 Kbytes Main memory size: 8 Mbytes Integral Ethernet controller: Version 0 Graphics board: GR1.2 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93A Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 my guess is 4D/3? The disks on these two machine types, according to CDC, are the same, (to the extent that they have the same product number) in spite of the fact that they look different physically, install differently, have different characteristics (ie. no. of heads, formatted capacity), and different 'sgi-info' disk types. on the 910-437s ... ----- current drive parameters ----- Read buffer ratio 4/256 Write buffer ratio 4/256 Err retry count = 27 Tracks/zone = 1 Sect/track = 36 Alt sect/zone = 1 Interleave = 1 Cylinders = 967 Alt track/volume = 0 Cylinder skew = 18 Heads = 9 Alt track/zone = 0 Track skew = 0 Data bytes/sect = 512 Cert Pattern = 0 ----- sgi-info ----- serial = 0000 name = CDC 94161-9 on the 460s ... ----- current drive parameters ----- Read buffer ratio 32/256 Write buffer ratio 128/256 Err retry count = 27 Tracks/zone = 5 Sect/track = 47 Alt sect/zone = 0 Interleave = 1 Cylinders = 1544 Alt track/volume = 5 Cylinder skew = 16 Heads = 5 Alt track/zone = 0 Track skew = 5 Data bytes/sect = 512 Cert Pattern = 0 ----- sgi-info ----- serial = 0000 name = CDC 94221-5 For Servers, we originally had were something called 920-254's. Physically they were two squat boxes with 4 VME slots each. hinv for one of those is: 4 25 MHZ IP7 Processors FPU: MIPS R2010A/R3010 VLSI Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.0 CPU: MIPS R2000A/R3000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 Data cache size: 64 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 64 Kbytes Main memory size: 128 Mbytes Xylogics 1/2 inch tape controller 0 ctlr type: 772 firmware: 2.5 ENP-10 Ethernet controller 0, firmware version 4 (SGI) Integral Ethernet controller: Version 2 Xylogics 754 4-drive SMD disk controller 0: Firmware version 2.7.0 SMD Disk drive: unit 1 on Xylogics controller 0 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93 Tape drive: unit 7 on SCSI controller 0: QIC 150 Recently, they all got moved into tower cases (with 8 VME slots each) and got a few more gadgets. I don't know if the CDC name for those is different (probably). I would prefer email responses, willl post if interest is demonstrated. thanks. -- Peter Silva OS Support psilva@cid.aes.doe.ca Dorval Computing Centre (514) 421-4692 Atmospheric Environment Service
olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) (04/27/91)
In <1991Apr26.140457.26270@cid.aes.doe.CA> aspgpas@cidsv01.cid.aes.doe.CA (Peter Silva) writes: | As a sysadm of a bunch of Irises, I am frustrated from | time to time because I never know what anyone out there | really calls the products I work with. We bought our | equipment through CDC, and the marketing types make the | CDC name appear everywhere (except on the first page of | the manuals, where the copyright is attributed to SGI). | | So, I have no idea what the heck we have. | | CDC Cyber 910-437 | 1 12 MHZ IP6 Processor | Graphics board: GR1.2 Bit-plane option installed 4D20 (if it says 20 Mhz), then it is 4D25; there are other differences, but this is the easiest way to tell.) You have the basic graphics, plus the 24 bitplane option. | CDC Cyber 910-460 | 1 20 MHZ IP6 Processor | Graphics board: GR1.2 4D25, with basic graphics (8 bit planes) | The disks on these two machine types, according to CDC, are the | same, (to the extent that they have the same product number) | | on the 910-437s ... | ----- current drive parameters ----- | Err retry count = 27 Tracks/zone = 1 Sect/track = 36 | Alt sect/zone = 1 Interleave = 1 Cylinders = 967 | Alt track/volume = 0 Cylinder skew = 18 Heads = 9 | Alt track/zone = 0 Track skew = 0 Data bytes/sect = 512 | Cert Pattern = 0 | ----- sgi-info ----- | serial = 0000 name = CDC 94161-9 CDC (wasn't even Imprimis then, let alone Seagate) 170 Mb unformatted. The slowest, lowest capacity drive shipped on the Personal Iris (4D20 and 4D25) machines. No longer shipped, now we use the Seagate half high 200 Mb (unformatted) as our smallest drive. It is much faster, and about 20 Mbytes larger (formatted). | | on the 460s ... | ----- current drive parameters ----- | Read buffer ratio 32/256 Write buffer ratio 128/256 | Err retry count = 27 Tracks/zone = 5 Sect/track = 47 | Alt sect/zone = 0 Interleave = 1 Cylinders = 1544 | Alt track/volume = 5 Cylinder skew = 16 Heads = 5 | Alt track/zone = 0 Track skew = 5 Data bytes/sect = 512 | Cert Pattern = 0 | ----- sgi-info ----- | serial = 0000 name = CDC 94221-5 This is the newer, faster low end drive I mentioned above. | For Servers, we originally had were something called 920-254's. | Physically they were two squat boxes with 4 VME slots each. | hinv for one of those is: | 4 25 MHZ IP7 Processors This is the 4D240 (the 2X0 are 25 Mhz processors, the 4 indicates number of processors). The 4D3X0 have the 33 Mhz processors, and the newly announced 4D4X0 series have 40 Mhz processors. -- Dave Olson Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code.