schoff@NISC.NYSER.NET (Martin Lee Schoffstall) (03/08/88)
Version 2.0 of NYSERNet's SGMP/SNMP Network Monitoring Software is now available to ***COMMERCIAL*** liscensees. This means FOR profit corporations. This implementation is for a network operation center (NOC) and does NOT currently include a gateway/server portion. All liscensing questions etc are handled by the NYSERNet business and administration office in NYC. So please contact: NYSERNet INC ATTN: SGMP Liscensing 1095 Avenue of the Americas Room 1702 New York, NY 10036 They will need a US Mail address and Person to contact for the liscenses. Alternatively that information can be delivered to: sgmplisc@nisc.nyser.net You will receive two liscenses to sign, a 15 page description of the implementation and an order blank in the US Mail. Martin Schoffstall Director of Technology NYSERNet INC PS: for new members of the mailing list there has been a non-commercial (university,non-profit,government) liscense available for a number of weeks. The mechanisms for procuring it is the same as above.
perry@MCL.UNISYS.COM (Dennis Perry) (03/08/88)
Marty, I have reservations about the commercial nature of your announcement which appeared on the snmp list, many of whom are on the Arpanet. This have been an area which is becoming more gray as time goes by, but it is a sensitive area and should not become an ongoing policy. It really does raise an issue in an internet where policy's differ in this area. Nysernet may well allow commercial mail, but the Arpanet does not (in general). Perhaps this type of mail could be indicated as a type of service (e.g. 2nd class mail) and networks which wont accecpt it could reject it. dennis
schoff@NISC.NYSER.NET ("Marty Schoffstall") (03/08/88)
Marty, I have reservations about the commercial nature of your announcement
which appeared on the snmp list, many of whom are on the Arpanet.
This have been an area which is becoming more gray as time goes by,
but it is a sensitive area and should not become an ongoing policy.
I certainly don't want to move into the gray area!! but I don't understand
the difference of a non-profit company like NYSERNet announcing availability
of something like SGMP/SNMP, vs CMU announcing its VMS/TCP or SRI
announcing PC/SAM. I tried to stay in the white but not talking about
money, by not using any of the traditional arpa mailing lists like
tcp-ip, etc... How does one in the hot environment of network management
get the word out? As a non-profit you could imagine it might be hard
to take an add out in InfoWorld or Datamation. But anyway, I don't
think I have to do this again, my responsability to informing the
community is over.
It really does raise an issue in an internet where policy's differ
in this area. Nysernet may well allow commercial mail, but the
Arpanet does not (in general). Perhaps this type of mail could be
indicated as a type of service (e.g. 2nd class mail) and networks
which wont accecpt it could reject it.
I'm not sure what I sent out was commercial mail, and I don't think that
we allow commercial mail, but like you said it is viewed by you and others
as grey. TOS would be an interesting may to handle commercial datagrams
though.
Martyromkey@kaos.UUCP (John Romkey) (03/10/88)
In article <8803081209.AA08843@LANAI.MCL.UNISYS.COM> perry@MCL.UNISYS.COM (Dennis Perry) writes: >Marty, I have reservations about the commercial nature of your announcement >which appeared on the snmp list, many of whom are on the Arpanet. I didn't think Marty's message was too overtly commercial. I thought that he was trying to emphasize that the new release was also available for use by commercial organizations (for use as in, you can put into your product now) whereas old releases hadn't been before. Many interesting pieces of software are released nowadays which carry notices that say they can only be used for nonprofit sorts of things. I read Marty's message as making it clear that there was a way that software developer's could license this software if they wanted to. In the case of SGMP (or SNMP or whatever it's being called these days; I'm afraid I'm kind of behind on this stuff) it's important to get it out to as many noncommercial and commercial organizations as possible. -- - john romkey ...harvard!spdcc!kaos!romkey romkey@kaos.uucp romkey@xx.lcs.mit.edu