[comp.sys.proteon] cisco / proteon interop on FDDI

JROSEN@MACC.WISC.EDU (Jay Rosenbloom) (05/21/91)

Hello,
 
We have a bunch of p4200s on an FDDI ring.  I was wondering if we'd
have any problems adding Cisco AGS+s with FDDI interfaces to this ring.
Is anyone using Ciscos and Proteons on the same FDDI network?  If so,
did you encounter any problems initially.  Have there been any
ongoing problems related to incompatibility between the two?
 
Thanks,
-Jay
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Jay Rosenbloom               Phone: 608-262-9421         jrosen@macc.wisc.edu
Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison   Fax:   608-262-4679         jrosen@wiscmac3
Madison Academic Computing Center,  1210 W. Dayton St., Madison, WI  53706

wilson@proteon.com (Mike Wilson) (05/22/91)

Jay -
I have used our 4200 routers at the interoperablility tests at UNH,
ANTC, and Interop. We connect, pass data, and live with each other
real well. I know these tests were not the real world, but take this
info for what it is worth.
					Mike Wilson

wilson@proteon.com (Mike Wilson) (05/22/91)

Chandra -
At the Interop hot staging in September, and later (just to be sure)
that month, cisco, Wellfleet, and we (Proteon) tried out CMIS/CMIP
(ISO) connectivity on FDDI. That protocol does NOT use the SNAP
encapsulation. I don't think we tried XNS, IPX, DECNET, Apollo Domain;
we know that Appletalk had a slight Phase I/II problem - only recently
have there been interoperability proposals for distinguishing between
I and II.

So no, except for ISO and IP (we and Wellfleet tried DECNET also),
these interoperability tests have not tried the higher layers.
					Mike Wilson

CCECL@NUSVM.BITNET ("L. Chandra") (05/22/91)

>Jay -
>I have used our 4200 routers at the interoperablility tests at UNH,
>ANTC, and Interop. We connect, pass data, and live with each other
>real well. I know these tests were not the real world, but take this
>info for what it is worth.
>					Mike Wilson

I presume the interop test is for IP only.  Has anyone tested XNS, AppleTalk
etc (over FDDI)?  Regards, -Chandra Liem

vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) (05/23/91)

> >I have used our 4200 routers at the interoperablility tests at UNH,
> >ANTC, and Interop. We connect, pass data, and live with each other
> >real well. I know these tests were not the real world, but take this
> >info for what it is worth.


At least two and I think all 3 of these organizations do not claim to test
anything but the link layer and below.  They have varied SMT and PCM test
suites and procedures, but at least one of the three will just look blank
if you talk about IP; they disavow any knowledge of TCP/IP or any other
useful protocol.  ("Useful" as in the reason someone might buy the stuff.)
Interop itself relies on the other two and on the vendors themselves to
test things.  At least this was my experience last year and the year
before, and it seems the same so far this year.

There was X over TCP/IP/FDDI at Interop90, but there was no more testing
than workstation vendors yelling to each other, "Hey, do you want to try it
now?"  Fortunately, TCP/IP works fine, provide the lower layers even half
work.


Vernon Schryver,   vjs@sgi.com