[comp.sys.xerox] ViewPoint File Transfer

adam@hyper.lap.upenn.edu (Adam Feigin) (06/02/88)

I have a slight (very rapildy getting larger) problem. We have an 1108 running
XDE, but we'd like to run ViewPoint to take advantage of its foreign text 
display capabilities. We have a large amount (several hundred MB) of
foreign texts stored on our Apollo filesystem, which we would like to download
to the Xerox after ViewPoint is installed. However, from the ViewPoint manuals
I see no way to do this via the ethernet. We have a working version of TCP/IP
under XDE, but files imported via XDE cannot be read from ViewPoint (as far
as I know, but I'm no expert !) Basically, what I need to know is:

1) Is there TCP/IP support under ViewPoint ?? (current or planned) ??
2) If not, is there any way to transfer files from my Apollo to the Xerox
   running ViewPoint ??

Any help is greatly appreciated.

						Adam




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lee@rocksanne.UUCP (06/05/88)

It is possible to pass text files from XDE to VP using a file server.
Viewpoint does understand simple text files.  It can also convert
those files to Viewpoint documents using the converter icon.

Lee


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Messenger-AI.SBDERX@XEROX.COM (06/07/88)

Re: "files imported via XDE cannot be read from ViewPoint"

Depends entirely what sort of files you are talking about.  It is true that
Viewpoint Documents cannot be imported via XDE, as thay are segmented files
which XDE knows nothing about (XDE will just read the first segment).  Any NS
file attributes will also get trashed when you read the files into XDE, but if
you are retrieving them from an Apollo system they are unlikely to be NS files.

So ...

Re: "1) Is there TCP/IP support under ViewPoint ?? (current or planned) ??"

No and no (to the best of my knowledge).

Re: "2) If not, is there any way to transfer files from my Apollo to the Xerox
running ViewPoint ??"

Yes, as you suggested, via ArpaFileTool in XDE.  As long as you are not
importing VP Documents or NS files you should be OK.  XDE does not munge the
contents of the file, only the attributes.  By the way, there is a neat VP hack
called XDE File Access which eases the pain of transfering files from XDE to VP
quite considerably.  If you don't have it, hassle your local support group ...
but don't tell them I said so ...

As this is Info-1100 I ought to mention that whatever you can do with TCP/IP in
XDE you can probably do better in Lisp.

   -- Hugh

Hippo.SBDERX@Xerox.COM

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