adam@hyper.lap.upenn.edu (Adam Feigin) (06/02/88)
I have a slight (very rapildy getting larger) problem. We have an 1108 running XDE, but we'd like to run ViewPoint to take advantage of its foreign text display capabilities. We have a large amount (several hundred MB) of foreign texts stored on our Apollo filesystem, which we would like to download to the Xerox after ViewPoint is installed. However, from the ViewPoint manuals I see no way to do this via the ethernet. We have a working version of TCP/IP under XDE, but files imported via XDE cannot be read from ViewPoint (as far as I know, but I'm no expert !) Basically, what I need to know is: 1) Is there TCP/IP support under ViewPoint ?? (current or planned) ?? 2) If not, is there any way to transfer files from my Apollo to the Xerox running ViewPoint ?? Any help is greatly appreciated. Adam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ARPAnet: {root,adam}@{hyper,apollo}.lap.upenn.edu UUCP: {harvard,decwrl,rutgers,ihnp4}!super.upenn.edu!hyper.lap.upenn.edu!adam Adam Feigin Network Administrator Language Analysis Project University of Pennsylvania -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
lee@rocksanne.UUCP (06/05/88)
It is possible to pass text files from XDE to VP using a file server. Viewpoint does understand simple text files. It can also convert those files to Viewpoint documents using the converter icon. Lee -- Lee Moore -- Xerox Webster Research Center, birthplace of the XGP UUCP: {allegra, decvax, cmcl2, rutgers}!rochester!rocksanne!lee Arpa Internet: Moore.wbst@xerox.arpa DDN: +1 (716) 422-2496
Messenger-AI.SBDERX@XEROX.COM (06/07/88)
Re: "files imported via XDE cannot be read from ViewPoint" Depends entirely what sort of files you are talking about. It is true that Viewpoint Documents cannot be imported via XDE, as thay are segmented files which XDE knows nothing about (XDE will just read the first segment). Any NS file attributes will also get trashed when you read the files into XDE, but if you are retrieving them from an Apollo system they are unlikely to be NS files. So ... Re: "1) Is there TCP/IP support under ViewPoint ?? (current or planned) ??" No and no (to the best of my knowledge). Re: "2) If not, is there any way to transfer files from my Apollo to the Xerox running ViewPoint ??" Yes, as you suggested, via ArpaFileTool in XDE. As long as you are not importing VP Documents or NS files you should be OK. XDE does not munge the contents of the file, only the attributes. By the way, there is a neat VP hack called XDE File Access which eases the pain of transfering files from XDE to VP quite considerably. If you don't have it, hassle your local support group ... but don't tell them I said so ... As this is Info-1100 I ought to mention that whatever you can do with TCP/IP in XDE you can probably do better in Lisp. -- Hugh Hippo.SBDERX@Xerox.COM Please note that these are my own private opinions and do not necessarily reflect the views of Xerox Corporation. Actually, I cannot tell a lie, they are not my opinions at all, they are the opinions of the little green men who come out of the walls at night and stick wires in my head.