uda@mina.liu.se (Ulf Dahlen) (09/17/88)
Does anybody know the status of CLUE and CLOS and how is Xerox'
involved in this?
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Ulf Dahlen
Dept of Computer & Info Science, University of Linkoping, Sweden
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"The beginning is a very delicate time."masinter.pa@XEROX.COM (09/19/88)
Lots of folks at Xerox (and Envos) are 'involved in this', if by 'this' you mean the evolution of the standards for window systems and object oriented programming for Common Lisp, both in working on standards committees and in development of prototype implementations. Perhaps you had a more specific question in mind?
uda@majestix.liu.se (Ulf Dahlen) (09/25/88)
In article <880919-092243-1455@Xerox> masinter.pa@Xerox.COM writes: >Lots of folks at Xerox (and Envos) are 'involved in this', if by 'this' you mean >the evolution of the standards for window systems and object oriented >programming for Common Lisp, both in working on standards committees and in >development of prototype implementations. > >Perhaps you had a more specific question in mind? Well, the problem is really that we don't hear so much of these things here in Europe. I wouldn't be all surprised if there already was a CLUE supporting system ready and running. And, yes, I do have more specific questions in mind: - How are the CLUE project progressing and what more specifically *is* the CLUE project? - They say CLOS in the form of PCL is included in the Lisp Users packages for Lyric, which we haven't got yet (but will have in a few weeks, I hope). Is that true, and is there any difference between CLOS and PCL and is CLOS an accepted standard and... - What *is* CLUE and what *is* CLX? Is there any paper describing them? I had not heard of them until I read some article on the net. I really like the Xerox Lisp environment, but it would be *very* nice to be able to write portable programs. A window system standard is therefore absolutely necessary. I think there are a number of application writers that are just waiting for this. Common Lisp was a step forward, but as I/O is the most important part of a program there really is a great need for CLUE, CLX or whatever. __________ Ulf Dahlen Dept of Computer & Info Science, University of Linkoping, Sweden Troskaregatan 51:23 | uda@ida.liu.se S-583 30 LINKOPING | uda@majestix.liu.se, uda@majestix.UUCP SWEDEN | {mcvax,munnari,seismo}!enea!liuida!uda "The beginning is a very delicate time."