[comp.sys.xerox] lasers for 1186's

pjf@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU ("Paul J. Feltovich") (03/16/90)

Our 8000 series file/print service, off maintenance, has crashed, probably
in a way that will be too expensive to repair.  We can live without the
file service, but really need to get back some kind of print capability.
We are running 1186's under medley.  It would be most helpful for us to
know: 1) What kinds of lasers people have driven from 1186's, 2)how
difficult it is, 3) how well it works, and 4) approximate cost (although
we can dig this up ourselves from the suggestions).  We know about
Xerox 4045's.  Any help would be most appreciated-- we are pretty much
shut down and trying to scramble.  By the way, we have a Mac LaserWriter II.
 Thanks,
Paul Feltovich
Southern Illinois Univ. School of Medicine
Springfield, IL

Tony_Sweeney@artificial-intelligence.co.uk (03/19/90)

There is a user package (called POSTSCRIPT) which allows Tedit, Hardcopyw
& sketch to generate postscript output. If your LaserWriter will accept postscript
input and has a serial port, you can hang it straight off the back of the
1186. Failing this, you might try harcopying to a postscript file and attempting
to transfer this file into the apple world using TCPFTP. I have personally
got both of these options working, so it can be done.

Tony Sweeney
Technical Support
A I Limited

mheffron@orion.oac.uci.edu (Matt Heffron) (03/20/90)

The problem with bitmaps not being included in PostScript TEDIT documents
is (at least with Medley) is a bug in the SCALEDBITBLT system function (not
in my PostScript code).  I guess I should finish a bit of cleanup and release
the next version of POSTSCRIPTSTREAM (I shouldn't have called it PostScript,
since that is Adobe's trademark, so it has been renamed).  It does work with
bitmaps (even with scale factors other than just 1.0) in TEDIT documents.
(We use it here for our "AI News" internal newsletter.)  Also bitmap dumping
(e.g. screen snapshots) are **MUCH** faster.  The bitmap is written in a
compressed format and uncompressed in the printer.  (It takes half as long to
write the postscript output file on my 1186 as before, the file is about
one-fifth !! the size (for medium to large screen snapshots), communication is
faster to the printer (due to the smaller file), and even with the uncompressing
in the printer, it images the bitmap twice as fast in the printer.)

I'll send the latest version (on 360K floppy) to Arun Welch at ohio-state soon.
I'm willing to send a floppy to 1 central site in Europe for further
redistribution on the east side of the Atlantic, and also to 1 site
"down-under" for Australian redistribution.

I'm pleased that so many people are finding my package useful.  I have recieved
some suggestions for changes/improvements (some with code) for the package.  I
regret that I have little time for these enhancements, as "real work" must
always take precedence.  But I do plan to eventually try to integrate these all
together.

Matt Heffron		mheffron@orion.oac.uci.edu
Beckman Instruments, Inc.
2500 N. Harbor Boulevard  MS X-11
Fullerton, CA 92634

Tony_Sweeney@artificial-intelligence.co.uk (03/20/90)

> That was my suggestion also, but I can't get Matt Hefron's POSTSCRIPT
> to work on conplicated TEDIT documents (ie. mixed font, centered
> titles, embedded bitmaps). Have you been able to get it to work for
> stuff like that?

No, I too found that it simply leaves the appropriate amount of space for
embedded bitmaps within Tedit documents. It will print snapshots of window
images, however. I guess I didn't play too much with Centered titles, odd
fonts, etc. I implied from the text of the original mailnote that some hardcopy
facility was a lot better than none. Since it is clearly possible to print
the various items individually and the source is supplied, I would have thought
that the more enterprising individual might be able to get something a bit
more sophisticated working. :-)

Tony.

"Jack_Bacon.WBST897ai"@XEROX.COM (03/20/90)

NEXT Medley release????

Have you got an E.T.A. on that?

-Jack

"Jack_Bacon.WBST897ai"@XEROX.COM (03/29/90)

John:

We have someone here who would like some training in Medley.  The fellow in
question is about to take over maintenance of a system which we delivered
in Medley LOOPS.  The system relies heavily upon the interface, so Medley
interfaces are of prime interest.  Is training in Medley offered?  Where
and when?  If not, what are recommended alternatives?

-Jack

"John_D._Sybalsky.mvenvos"@XEROX.COM (03/02/94)

I think I made the fixes in SCALEDBITBLT that should make the next Medley
release work much better with PostscriptStream.

--John

"John_D._Sybalsky.mvenvos"@XEROX.COM (03/02/94)

We're planning an interim release roughly April/May, with the "next"
release, 1.2, being due around Labor Day.

BTW, Venue has a consulting agreement with Xerox to provide tecnical backup
to the existing customer support (yes, the 800 # still works!), and to get
these releases out.

--John