LUKEN@LEHIIBM1.BITNET.UUCP (12/03/87)
Ok, my turn to put in my 2 cents. I tried for quite a while to get files from SIMTEL20 onto a VAX a short while ago. The VAX that I was using was running CMU TCP/IP, and here's the command that I tried first: RECEIVE PD:<MSDOS.xxx>file.ARC file.ARC /TYPE=IMAGE Nothin doin. The 36 vs. 32 bit image types killed each other. Then, I tried this: QUOTE TYPE L 8 RECEIVE PD:<MSDOS.xxx>file.ARC file.ARC This worked! ...or at least I thought it did. I was able to FTP back a small binary file, and then unarc it. Note the keyword - small. I then, thinking that I'd beaten the system, tried a larger file. After a while, VMS gagged because the record length was too long. That was as far as I got. Anyone know how to get a longer (unlimited) record length in a file on VMS. Sorry guys, I know this isn't really Z100 related, but I thought I'd add to the existing conversation. No flames please, I gave at the office. Ken
hoffman@pitt.CSNET.UUCP (12/03/87)
> From: "Kenneth R. van Wyk" <LUKEN%LEHIIBM1.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> > > QUOTE TYPE L 8 > RECEIVE PD:<MSDOS.xxx>file.ARC file.ARC > > This worked! ...or at least I thought it did. I was able to FTP back > a small binary file, and then unarc it. Note the keyword - small. I > then, thinking that I'd beaten the system, tried a larger file. After > a while, VMS gagged because the record length was too long. That was > as far as I got. Anyone know how to get a longer (unlimited) record > length in a file on VMS. Although I am FAR from being a knowledgeable VMesS user, I can offer this one observation: When you did the QUOTE TYPE L 8, you only told Simtel20 what mode you wanted. VMS needs to know what mode the output file should be created with, e.g. Variable-CRLF, Fixed-512, etc. It probably assumes Variable-CRLF, which is ASCII.. I'm sure VMS ASCII files have a record-length limit. This is surely one of the "joys" of RMS. :-( I just looked at the CMU/TEK TCP/IP on one of our comp center's machines and I'm quite surprised. I was about to suggest that you tell VMS that you're going to do an IMAGE transfer, then tell Simtel20 to go to TYPE L 8. I now see that there's no way to do this, since the only place you can set the file transfer type is in the RECEIVE or TRANSFER command with a /TYPE= switch. No doubt this sends a TYPE command to the FTP server, thus overriding any previous TYPE command. Sheesh. Frankly, I'm a little surprised at CMU for not including TENEX style file transfers. After all, C.CS.CMU.EDU is still a DEC-20. Would they really cut off one of their own? True, the 10s and 20s probably have a short life remaining, but it seems like such an easy feature to implement. [I do not know this for a fact -- I have not seen the CMU/TEK source code.] ---Bob.