RDYSART@SIMTEL20.ARPA (Dick Dysart STEWS-TELG 6125) (03/31/88)
Most of the latest (all?) of the news on this BB has been for the MS-DOS side of the machine. So I'm asking an old question. What's the latest and greatest CPM version of Kermit that you know about? It seems to me that we are neglecting an overlooked capability of this machine. How many of you have spent any CPM time lately? I for one would like to see the CPM capabilities, brought up to a par with the MS-DOS side. We've got lots of RAM (768K) there, lots of speed (8Mhz), all sorts of other goodies. Can we open up the CPM environment space, etc.?? Will ZCPR work on the 8085 cpu ? Any comments?? --Dick.. -------
eboyd@APG-1.ARPA (Earnie Boyd AMSTE-TEF 3077) (03/31/88)
I'm with you. Since I got an (UGH) S100 USR Modem, I haven't found a decent
modem program that will run under MSDOS. I look longingly at BesTerm but
use MDM730 or MEX via V2080 under ZPC (just to get rid of the Wild Interrupt).
Some of the Z248 users at work are using the CPM CRUNCH under Z80MU 'cause
there ain't an MSDOS Cruncher.
EarnieGUBBINS@RADC-TOPS20.ARPA (Gern) (03/31/88)
Dick, It has been said that CP/M is not an Operating System, Operating Systems are supposed to DO things FOR you, not AGAINST you. Every time I change a disk, neglect to enter CTRL/C, and get killed, I tend to agree with the above. (-: Well, CP/M-86 is the most powerful version, and if you can find a copy: MP/M, CCP/M, and CP/M+ (8085) are out there for the Z-100 as well. I have converted any and all CP/M desired software over to MS-DOS, which wasn't much. The HUG ZCPM package converts most all (even SWEEP) CP/M-85 programs to MS-DOS by shelling it in a CP/M emulator and calling the 8085 processor. Last I used it, it worked quite well. ZCPR, I am told, only works with a Z-80 CPU, hence will not run on the 8085. CP/M is dead. CP/M-8-bit is even deader. All I would ever use it for is to try out the wealth of CP/M stuff on SIMTEL20.ARPA for possible conversion to MS-DOS. Gern -------
malpass@LL-VLSI.ARPA (Don Malpass) (03/31/88)
Whazamatter with using BesTerm? I've found it to be the friendliest modem program in existence. There are a couple of things I'd change if I had the time (now that the sources are public), but the incentive is so low that I'll never get to it. If I had that kind of time, I'd use it to flail the source into a generic-pc-clone version so I could use it at work on my AT. I find kermit itself to be a bit of a pain, although I'm sure grateful that someone did it and set the standard. Now that modems and phone communication are more robust than the old days, maybe the larger-packet-option will catch on well enough that versions will become available for all the machines I use. That will cut down the overhead a lot (which is enormous in present-day kermit). If anybody out there HAS created a pc version of BesTerm, I'd love to have a copy. don malpass@LL-vlsi.arpa