W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (Keith Petersen) (09/16/88)
Forwarded from Usenet... --------- Path: cmcl2!phri!dasys1!tbetz From: tbetz@dasys1.UUCP (Tom Betz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,misc.legal Subject: PK vs ARC - Thom Henderson Speaks Date: 15 Sep 88 01:02:05 GMT Summary: Mr SEA breaks his silence... and everyone but Phil can use his file format! In the process of trying to sort out the SEA vs. PK situation, Thom Henderson posted this statement on Magpie HQ (212) 420-0527. I thought that folks here might be interested in it as well. A little more information amidst all the noise... ------------------------- cut here -------------------------- From THOM HENDERSON Msg #25928 *COMPUTERS* (Rcvd) To STEVE MANES Wed Sep 14, 1988 4:51am (0:19) ----------------------------------------------------------- SEA Policy Statement on ARC Trademark and Copyrights Many of our users have expressed concern regarding use of the ARC trademark and copyrights. To better meet their needs we have formulated this Statement of Policy, effective as of September 13, 1988. This policy applies to anyone who does not already have an agreement with us. In the interest of serving the needs of the bulletin board community and supporting the shareware concept, we pledge to: o Maintain the ARC file format as a stable industry standard. o Continue to upgrade ARC for speed and efficiency. o Continue to distribute ARC as a shareware product, and continue to allow for its free non-commercial use. Futhermore, we pledge to foster the ingenuity and creativity of our fellow shareware authors, whom we are happy to support in virtually every manner. ARC To protect the rights of our shareware licensees, ARC may be freely copied and distributed subject to the following conditions: 1) No fee may be charged for such copying and distribution. 2) ARC may only be distributed in its original, unmodified state. 3) ARC may not be distributed, in whole or in part, as part of any commercial product or service without the express written permission of SEA. 4) ARC may be made available for download by pay bulletin boards and similar commercial services provided that no additional fee is charged specifically for downloading ARC. ARC TRADEMARK Use of the ARC trademark may be licensed subject to the following terms: 1) Any use of the ARC trademark means that the product is SHAREWARE. We need a fully functional copy of the latest version with documentation to make available on our BBS for general download. 2) Your product must be compatible with the current version of ARC from SEA, and must be of an acceptable level of quality and workmanship. 3) We must have your name and address so that we can keep you informed on any changes to ARC. 4) As the legal owner of the ARC trademark, we are bound by US trademark laws to protect and maintain the integrity of ARC in any program that uses the ARC trademark . To comply with this, we must ask for fully commented source code. We will keep your source code completely confidential if you so desire, and we will not make use of any of your source code in any of our products without your express, written permission. ARC SOURCE CODE The ARC program sources have always been available for informational purposes. They may be used freely in the creation of shareware utilities that examine the contents of an ARC format archive. Any other use of the ARC source code is subject to the following terms and conditions: 1) Your product must be SHAREWARE. We need a fully functional copy of the latest version with documentation to make available on our BBS for general download. 2) The first $100,000 worth of revenues is yours to keep. We want 6.5% of any revenue above that in return for the use of our code. 3) For the protection of our users, your product may not produce ARC format archives which are incompatiable with our current version of ARC. ARC FILE FORMAT 1) We hereby grant to the entire world and all sentient creatures in the universe who do not already have an agreement with us to the contrary a perpetual, unlimited, galaxy wide license to read, extract, create, or otherwise manipulate ARC format archives. This does not include any license to use our sources or trademarks. 2) If you make any changes to the format such that your file is not compatible with the current version of ARC, then the result may not be referred to as an ARC format Archive. We feel that this Policy Statement is a fair and workable answer to all concerned with ARC format archives, developers and users alike. If any developer is unable to comply with these terms, please contact us at (201) 473-5153 to discuss alternative arrangements. ---------------------------- cut here ------------------------------ Now, the most interesting part of this (to me) is the following, emphasis mine: 1) We hereby grant to the entire world and all sentient creatures in the universe WHO DO NOT ALREADY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH US TO THE CONTRARY a perpetual, unlimited, galaxy wide license to read, extract, create, or otherwise manipulate ARC format archives. This does not include any license to use our sources or trademarks. This seems to me to mean, considering what has already been posted here, that everyone in the known universe EXCEPT Phil Katz is permitted to write and use any program that manipulates SEA-ARC-format files. This would seem also to mean that he may not write and distribute a program that converts SEA-ARC-format files to whatever his new file format may be, and he and he alone in the universe is singularly so excluded! Wow!! Talk about spite... I hope I'm wrong in this reading. Any legal eagles who have read what has gone before who can confirm/deny this? Could this kind of exclusion hold up in court? I'm continuing to ask Thom for clarification in other matters (having presented him with what has gone before here, which he seems not to have seen until this morning) and will pass along whatever he tells us. -- "But Mister Swann, this is for ladies!!!" |Tom Betz <zzzzzzzzZIP!> |ZCNY, Yonkers, NY 10701-2509 "So is this, marm, but every so often |UUCP: tbetz@dasys1.UUCP or I must run a little water through it." | ...!cmcl2!phri!dasys1!tbetz