[comp.sys.dec.micro] Format Pro-350 disks

chaim@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Chaim Dworkin) (09/28/89)

I've been using Pro-350s since around 1983 and swearing at what a stupid
computer it is up until the past few months.  I recently upgraded to 
P/OS 3.1 and from reading this newsgroup am gaining a new appreciation
of what appears to be a very sluggish computer with a weird OS.
I have been told that DEC didn't want it to compete with the PDP11 so 
they put lots of wait states in the operating system.  I don't know if
that's true but it looks slow enough to have at least a few thousand 
wait states to me  :^)

Anyway, one thing which has always bothered me is that there is no format
program which will allow you to take a generic 96tpi disk and initialize
it on the Pro.  You are locked in to buying RX50s.  Over the summer I
made an interesting discovery.  If you buy a generic 96 tpi diskette
and format it in a Rainbow using the FORMAT /i command, it will create a
formatted diskette which can then be put into a Pro-350 and initialized.

Has anyone tried this?  Can anyone tell me if I'm doing something safe
or am I liable to find lost data sometime in the future???

Chaim

warner@twg.com (M. Warner Losh) (09/30/89)

In article <14810@netnews.upenn.edu>, chaim@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Chaim  Dworkin) writes...
>I've been using Pro-350s since around 1983 and swearing at what a stupid
[...]
>made an interesting discovery.  If you buy a generic 96 tpi diskette
>and format it in a Rainbow using the FORMAT /i command, it will create a
>formatted diskette which can then be put into a Pro-350 and initialized.
> 
>Has anyone tried this?  Can anyone tell me if I'm doing something safe
>or am I liable to find lost data sometime in the future???

Tried it?  Hell, the company that I worked for in High School RELIED on
it.  In fact, they used to use the Rainbow to make distributions for them.
At the time the rainbow wasn't good for much else.  That was before the
days of LCTERM, EMACS, MS-DOS and 100B's.  It is a well know fact that the
Rainbow is one of the few computers around that can format RX50 floppies.
At one point, I don't even think that VAXen could do it, but I'm SURE that
has had to have changed by now.  [[Side note:  How do you format RX50's
on a VAX (microvax II)?]]

So, to answer your question, yes, it is cool to do this.  I know that the
disks that I formatted on a rainbow Seven years ago are still being used
(once in a blue moon) on a PRO 350 with no problems at all.  (Gee, has it
really been seven years?  Have I had my rainbow for five?  Gee, I suddenly
feel Old.....) :-)
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