barron@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Daniel P. Barron) (03/20/89)
Hi Folks! AAAARRRGGHH!! I have an RT running AIX 2.2.1 and TCP/IP 2.2.1. Well, sort of running it. Some questions, for any help with which I shall be eternally grateful. 1) When /etc/rc.tcpip runs at startup I get error messages from the named daemon such as: Mar 19 21:52:02 rt108 named[92]: zoneref: Masters for secondary zone wharton.upenn.edu unreachable rt108 is my hostname and wharton.etc is the network I'm on 128.91.11.xx It seems I've simply got the wrong stuff in my /etc/named.* files, but I can't for the life of me figure out what *should* be in there. I've been at this for only a few months, but still, I don't think it should be *this* difficult to figure out. An explanation would be nice, but even nicer would be a copy of somebody's working named.* files, just to look at. It's hard as hell figuring out what IBM wants you to put in these files. I'm trying to hook my RT up to the Internet directly. Funny thing is, it sort of works. I can telnet ftp and (sorta) sendmail. Still, these errors are frustrating. Which brings me to the second problem: 2) With TCP/IP v. 2.2 I could do use dotted decimal format, i.e. telnet 128.91.11.1, but not nameserving, i.e. telnet wharton. Now with this "updated" version, names work and (get this) numbers don't! What I would like to do is use remote nameserver on our site, only resorting to a local file if there is no entry upstream. Can I do this? 3) Finally, even when things work and I can telnet to remote hosts, full screen stuff (like editors, etc.) doesn't work. Is this due to not running X-windows? I mean, the stuff works, but the keys are all screwed up and don't behave properly even though the thing is supposed to be emulating a VT100. Is keyboard remapping the answer? Can I do that? Any help, pointers, *anything* would be appreciated. IBM doc stinks and even though my doc/software version numbers match it's obvious the info in the doc is *wrong* (i.e. it names files that no longer exist, etc.) I just don't think it should be *this* hard. HELP! adTHANKSvance, db p.s. When we got this working at first (ver. 2.1) it took me and *two* IBM tech refs *and* a very knowledgeable friend over three days to get it working. And this update is a nightmare. I say again, it shouldn't be *this* hard!!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Daniel P. Barron | E-Mail to: | | Wharton Computing | barron@wharton.upenn.edu | | University of Pennsylvania | barron@eniac.seas.upenn.edu | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = "Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with = = themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon" = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
melanie@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (03/22/89)
um, in reference to your first problem, you do have the correct netmask entered in /etc/net? if youre a class b network but youre subnetting, your netmask should be 255.255.255.0 or 0xffffff00 >2) With TCP/IP v. 2.2 I could do use dotted decimal format, i.e. > telnet 128.91.11.1, but not nameserving, i.e. telnet wharton. Now with > this "updated" version, names work and (get this) numbers don't! What > I would like to do is use remote nameserver on our site, only resorting > to a local file if there is no entry upstream. Can I do this? dotted decmial works on my rt, but i am not a slave nameserver, just a lowly client. all i have is a resolv.conf file that lists a couple of nameservers. >3) Finally, even when things work and I can telnet to remote hosts, full > screen stuff (like editors, etc.) doesn't work. Is this due to not > running X-windows? I mean, the stuff works, but the keys are all > screwed up and don't behave properly even though the thing is supposed > to be emulating a VT100. Is keyboard remapping the answer? Can I do > that? no, the vt100 emulator in ibm aix telnet is hopelessly wrong. everyone i know running aix has this same problem. my local ibm software person even admitted it was a basically bad implementation. your best bet is to find someone who has typed in a termcap entry for the 5151. (dont look at me!) the good news is, their 3270 emulator is great. >p.s. When we got this working at first (ver. 2.1) it took me and *two* >IBM tech refs *and* a very knowledgeable friend over three days to get >it working. And this update is a nightmare. I say again, it shouldn't >be *this* hard!!!
bunda@cs.utexas.edu (John Bunda) (03/22/89)
In article <8949@netnews.upenn.edu>, barron@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Daniel P. Barron) writes: > It seems I've simply got the wrong stuff in my /etc/named.* files, but I > can't for the life of me figure out what *should* be in there. ... > An explanation would be nice, but even nicer would be a copy of somebody's > working named.* files, just to look at. Look in /usr/lpp/tcpip/samples, where you'll find examples of what these name database files should look like. There is also (or there was in 2.2) a shell script to convert an /etc/hosts format file to a name database. You'll also need to define a resolv.conf file. See the TCP/IP book for setting up "domain name service". > 2) With TCP/IP v. 2.2 I could do use dotted decimal format, i.e. > telnet 128.91.11.1, but not nameserving, i.e. telnet wharton. Now with > this "updated" version, names work and (get this) numbers don't! What > I would like to do is use remote nameserver on our site, only resorting > to a local file if there is no entry upstream. Can I do this? Numbers should work fine. I suspect other problems are causing your hostname resolver to not work properly. > 3) Finally, even when things work and I can telnet to remote hosts, full > screen stuff (like editors, etc.) doesn't work. Is this due to not > running X-windows? I mean, the stuff works, but the keys are all > screwed up and don't behave properly even though the thing is supposed > to be emulating a VT100. Is keyboard remapping the answer? Can I do > that? I suspect you are running into problems with telnet eating control chars. There are several ways around this - one is to use rlogin, the other is to use stty to disable the normal xon/xoff handshaking but I forget the exact details of how to do this. -John -- ................................... John Bunda UT CS Dept. bunda@cs.utexas.edu Austin, Texas
eap@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Eric Pearce) (03/23/89)
In article <221600003@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> melanie@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu says: >no, the vt100 emulator in ibm aix telnet is hopelessly wrong. everyone i know >running aix has this same problem. my local ibm software person even >admitted it was a basically bad implementation. your best bet is to find >someone who has typed in a termcap entry for the 5151. (dont look at me!) >the good news is, their 3270 emulator is great. I could probably supply a termcap, since we have the 4.3 RT's here too. I took the IBM specific entries and added them to our Suns. The 8514 one needed a little modification. I was able to add terminfo entries on the AIX machine with tic source produced by "infocmp" on a Sun4. What "3270 emulator" are you talking about? The only one we have is "telnet" in "em 3270" mode, which locks up your terminal and doesn't respond to any keystrokes other than telnet escape character. Has anybody got that "xant" thing I've hear about? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Pearce ARPANET eap@bu-it.bu.edu Boston University Information Technology CSNET eap%bu-it@bu-cs 111 Cummington Street JNET jnet%"ep@buenga" Boston MA 02215 UUCP !harvard!bu-cs!bu-it!eap 617-353-2780 voice 617-353-6260 fax BITNET ep@buenga
njs@scifi.UUCP (Nicholas J. Simicich) (03/24/89)
In article <5068@cs.utexas.edu> bunda@cs.utexas.edu (John Bunda) writes: -In article <8949@netnews.upenn.edu>, barron@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Daniel P. Barron) writes: (Q&A about named elided.) -> 2) With TCP/IP v. 2.2 I could do use dotted decimal format, i.e. -> telnet 128.91.11.1, but not nameserving, i.e. telnet wharton. Now with -> this "updated" version, names work and (get this) numbers don't! What -Numbers should work fine. I suspect other problems are causing your -hostname resolver to not work properly. We've reported this bug, unless someone else has beaten us to it. Call support, and get the fix if there is one, or get them to send you the fix when they build one. -> 3) Finally, even when things work and I can telnet to remote hosts, full -> screen stuff (like editors, etc.) doesn't work. Is this due to not -> running X-windows? I mean, the stuff works, but the keys are all -> screwed up and don't behave properly even though the thing is supposed -> to be emulating a VT100. Is keyboard remapping the answer? Can I do -> that? -I suspect you are running into problems with telnet eating control chars. -there are several ways around this - one is to use rlogin, the other -is to use stty to disable the normal xon/xoff handshaking but I forget -the exact details of how to do this. If this is your problem, you can issue stty -ixon before doing your telnet. As far as what is transmitted when you press a key, yes, keyboard remapping may be your answer. I presume from your descriptions that your screens are being displayed correctly, but when you type pfk's and cursor keys that odd things are happening. -- Nick Simicich --- uunet!bywater!scifi!njs --- njs@ibm.com (Internet)