meo@stiatl.UUCP (Miles O'Neal) (02/17/90)
Perforce, let me acknowledge for the disclaimer-impaired that I speak not even one whit for my employer on this issue, and will likely be summarily flogged for posting this even with this introductory disclaimer. The following are opinions held by myself and various other people I know, who may or may not come forth to admit them. So assume they're all mine until proven otherwise. They are violently out of phase with lots of other peoples opinions, including some around here. Just for the record. Regarding recent RIOS vs RT stuff: 1) Of COURSE the people who bought RTs were foolish to do so. For IBM to admit this, is of course, unprecedented and amazing. 2) IBM has a history of leaving people holding their excrement, as it were. Just take a gander at the midrange systems. A number of IBM shops have found it easier to port their IBM midrange code to DEC VAXen than to port (*again*) to the IBM midrange-marvel-of-the-year. 3) Most recent nearly-personal case in point - AIX for the PS-2/80 is broke. IBM finally admitted it today at their product announcement. If the poor souls who've been saddled with a certain Sun->PS port will just hold their breath a while longer, the next release of AIX will really, really, REALLY work *this* time, for sure. Regarding the RIOS in general: I hear/see great claims for the new 6000. I heard these same types of claims every time IBM introduced a system in the middie or micro arena - PC, System 3x, Series 1, RT/PC, PS-2, etc. Every time it has turned out to be more of the same: lies, damned lies, and IBM Marketing hype. There are always *many* of the faithful, and quite a few wannabe's, who get excited every time. "They fooled me before, but this time they aren't fooling!" "Hey! This time they finally got it RIGHT!" I can't recall all the times I've heard this from the blind about to be led into Yet Another Processor Pit (YAPP), but the count surely is beyond the price of a 6000 with 12 MB RAM and a 300 MB hard disk, in US dollars. I may be forced to eat crow later on this one. But based on IBM's track record at these system levels, it seems more likely to me that an awful lot of other people are going to be eating big blue's crow for a long time to come. Repeat disclaimer. -Miles Actually, I want one, too. Great for target practice...
dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) (02/17/90)
In article <9038@stiatl.UUCP> meo@stiatl.UUCP (Miles O'Neal) writes: >3) Most recent nearly-personal case in point - AIX for the PS-2/80 is > broke. IBM finally admitted it today at their product announcement. > If the poor souls who've been saddled with a certain Sun->PS port > will just hold their breath a while longer, the next release of > AIX will really, really, REALLY work *this* time, for sure. You've got a bit of explaining to do if you want anyone to consider your article as anything other than empty yammering. How is AIX PS/2 "broke"? And whatever does the RIOS product announcement have to do with that? If you can elaborate on your experience which led you to believe this, it would be useful information to us all. Having used AIX PS/2 for a year now, I wouldn't begin to make such a claim. It seems like a pretty reasonable merged BSD/SysV OS. -- Steve Dyer dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer dyer@arktouros.mit.edu, dyer@hstbme.mit.edu