seeger@cis.ufl.edu (F. L. Charles Seeger III) (04/18/91)
I was contacted by mail today about distributing the updated compilers for the Dec 88 release of ACIS 4.3, the 4.3BSD port for IBM RTs. (I maintain the anonymous ftp site for patches to this OS on bikini.cis.ufl.edu.) The correspondent does not have uucp access, and the IBM folks in his country are not able to produce the updates because it is no longer a supported product. He did not obtain them earlier because they have only recently switched from AIX on these machines. Questions for anyone in the know: 1) Is the uucp site still running? 2) If so, is it permissible to do a third party transaction, i.e. download the software and send it to someone else? 3) May I make the compilers available for anon-ftp? Who do I need to obtain permission from? 4) Does anyone have an email address for a contact at IBM or Metaware that might be able to help with this issue? 5) Does anyone know the latest about gcc on the RTs? Eric Brunner once expressed relief that we hadn't put the compilers up for ftp, so I really hesitate to do this with official sanction. (Eric, if you are out there, "Hi, thanks for everything.") TIA, Chuck -- Charles Seeger E301 CSE Building Office: +1 904 392 1508 CIS Department University of Florida Fax: +1 904 392 1220 seeger@ufl.edu Gainesville, FL 32611-2024
jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr) (04/19/91)
An IBM person once mentioned in this group that the compilers could not be
made available for anonymous ftp (by IBM or anyone else) because that would
violate an agreement with Metaware.
The gcc situation is still the same: when gcc v2 is released it will work on
the RT. If you want to know when that will be, ask rms (he may not know
either). Until then, use hc.
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John Carr (jfc@athena.mit.edu)webb@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (Bill Webb) (04/24/91)
In article <28068@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU>, seeger@cis.ufl.edu (F. L. Charles Seeger III) writes: |> ... |> Questions for anyone in the know: |> 1) Is the uucp site still running? |> 2) If so, is it permissible to do a third party transaction, i.e. |> download the software and send it to someone else? |> 3) May I make the compilers available for anon-ftp? Who do I need |> to obtain permission from? |> 4) Does anyone have an email address for a contact at IBM or Metaware |> that might be able to help with this issue? |> 5) Does anyone know the latest about gcc on the RTs? |> -- |> Charles Seeger E301 CSE Building Office: +1 904 392 1508 I've passed your questions on to Phil Sherin here at IBM and this is his reply: Answers to questions posed above: 1) The uucp site is no longer running. 2) Third party transactions are not permitted under license. 3) The compilers are proprietary, licensed products. They may not be redistributed to any third party. Any party wishing to make copies could probably contact: Mr. Frank DeRemer MetaWare Corporation 2161 Delaware St. Santa Cruz, CA 95060 Tel: (408) 429-6382 for terms and conditions that might be available to distribute. 4) see above for MetaWare, for IBM contact: Phil Sherin IBM, Personal Systems Programming 1510 Page Mill Road - MS35A Palo Alto, CA 94043 or P.O. Box 10050 94043 Phil's phone number is (415) 855-4424. His EMAIL address is sherin@ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com, please contact him for further information about this topic. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Webb (IBM PSP Palo Alto, Ca.), (415) 855-4457. UUCP: ...!uunet!ibmsupt!webb INTERNET: webb@ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com
brunner@practic.UUCP (Thomas Eric Brunner) (04/30/91)
John, I'm probably the person you are referring to w.r.t. ftp'ing compiler binaries. We went through all the steps and found that for each of the 3rd-party compilers: Metaware's HighC and Professional Pascal, HCR's hf77, the legal problems were just too great. I'm looking forward to gcc, as I know a lot of other people are as well. -- #include <std/disclaimer.h> Eric Brunner, Consultant inet: brunner@monet.berkeley.edu uucp: uunet!practic!brunner trying to understand multiprocessing is like having bees live inside your head.
i1neal@exnet.iastate.edu (Neal Rauhauser -- ) (05/10/91)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt Subject: Re: RT keyboard on AT-clone Summary: Expires: References: <13573@ur-cc.UUCP> Sender: Reply-To: i1neal@exnet.iastate.edu (Neal Rauhauser -- ) Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: Iowa State University Extension Keywords: IBM RT PC keyboard connector pinout AT -- Neal i1neal@exnet.iastate.edu "A poor fool indeed is he who adopts a manner of thinking (meant) for others!" - Donatien-Alphonse-Francois de Sade "If I knew the way, I would take you home" - The Dead