[comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc] Misc. Problems with CMU/PC-IP

XBR2D96D@DDATHD21.BITNET.UUCP (10/28/87)

Hallo everybody,

I'm very sorry to insert this note to the (very interesting) discussion
about nonresident TPC/IP's or standardized interfaces. I've got some
problems and have made some observations with/about the CMU PC-IP as
distributed in August 87.

1.) Is it correct, that there is no session logging facility provided
    with the terminal emulators (or am I just so stupid that I didn't
    find it)?
2.) If you don't have Nameservers/Domainservers in your network (we
    have an TCP/IP Ethernet with three UNIX V Workstations, four
    Terminalservers and two AT compatible PC's), you have no way to
    enter symbolic node-names (at least I found no routine that is
    looking for a local host table). Is that observation correct?
3.) For some reasons (no VT-100 emulation in CMU PC-IP) I'm running
    CMU PC-IP in parallel to the FTP V1.16 product. I've seen no
    problems up to now. Is this a "feature", a bug or just good luck?
4.) Where can I get PD name/domain/time/cookie/"whatever else" server
    code?


Regards
Martin Knoblauch

TH-Darmstadt
Dept. Physical Chemistry 1
Petersenstrasse 20
D-6100 Darmstadt
West-Germany

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PS: TOP 1.) and 2.) have been resolved by hacking, so I need only
    confirmation that my observations are true or that I'm stupid.

jbvb@ftp.UUCP (James Van Bokkelen) (10/28/87)

Regarding local host tables:  As far as I know (I haven't used a number
of the Public Domain packages), all of the commercial offerings have
hosttable facilities, and none of the free ones do.  We put our own
in when we started using our package internally, but couldn't afford
anything we could run a standard nameserver on.

Regarding your question 3: It is more or less a "feature" that our 1.16
(and most other descendants of PC/IP) co-exists with CMU.  Each of the
programs has its own hardware driver and interrupt service, and tries to
be well-behaved in how it leaves the interface and vector (although versions
of the Stanford code of a year ago apparently didn't restore the vector).

We sell a $40 "Public Domain Software" diskette that has an IEN-116 nameserver
on it (in source form for 4BSD systems).  We've been told that we could
put Berkeley's Bind on the same diskette, but it is quite large, even
when compressed.  Either program can also be picked up by anonymous FTP
from various Internet sites.

James B. VanBokkelen
FTP Software Inc.

nelson@CLUTX.CLARKSON.EDU.UUCP (10/28/87)

>Regarding local host tables:  As far as I know (I haven't used a number
>of the Public Domain packages), all of the commercial offerings have
>hosttable facilities, and none of the free ones do.

Phil Karn's KA9Q code doesn't have nameserver, and does have a local host
table.  I have added nameserver code, but it is not well integrated yet.
-russ

ddp+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU.UUCP (10/29/87)

1) If you are asking about a "photo" utility, then you are correct, there
isn't one.
2) It doesn't support a local host table, and never will.
3) It's certainly a feature.

Drew