[comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc] PcIp scorecard - revision 4

HANK@BARILVM.BITNET (Hank Nussbacher) (05/01/88)

Plz send updates to me directly, as I am not on the list.

                         The Pc/Ip Scorecard
                        revision 4:  05/01/88
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    We   are   the   process   of   trying   to   decide which Pc/Ip
implementation  would  be  the   best.   After  asking  around   the
overwhelming reply  I have  received has  been, "If  you ever find a
comparison study, I would love to  see it too".  That is why  I have
decided to create the Pc/Ip Scorecard.

    This scorecard will  be like a  PC Magazine analysis  of of hard
disks or printers.  But  I need help in  filling in the boxes.   So,
here is what the scorecard looks like.  Please send me your  replies
and  I  will  integrate  all  answers  and  comments and publish the
finalized scorecard in the weeks to come.

|Revision 4: a) redefination of max FTP: this column will reflect max
|               FTP rates from disk to disk.  People who have
|               provided max FTP rates based on NUL, should send me
|               updated information.  A disk can be defined as a real
|               disk, ramdisk or any other sort of "fast" disk
|               available on your system.  In addition, "k" stands
|               for Kbytes/per second and not kbits/per second.
|               This column still stands for transfer to a PC and should
|               not be measuring transfer from a PC.
|            b) FTP has been redefined to be FTP client and not server.
|            c) The vendor column should now include the version and
|               release name of the system in question (in first table)
|            d) "name server" has been redefined to be "domain name
|               server" and not IEN116
|            e) "net-BIOS" has been redefined to be be RFC1001/1002
|               netBios
|            f) Added 3com 3c503 and Micom NI5210 cards to list.
|            g) "gateway" (in the 3rd table) refers to IP forwarding
|               capability

    This first table is called "Must Have".

Vendor        TFTP  POP ICMP SMTP VT-  3270 FTP   ARP  UDP max  cost
                                   100      Clnt           FTP  ($)
-------------+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
Beame        | Yes| No | Yes| No |    | No |    | Yes| Yes|    |    |
Cornell      |  No| No | Yes| No | No | Yes| No | Yes| Yes|    |  25|site
CMU          | Yes| No | Yes| No | No | No | No | Yes| Yes|    |   0|
Excelan      | No | No | Yes| No | Yes| No | Yes| Yes| Yes| 88k| 250|cpu
FTP  2.02    | Yes| No | Yes| Yes| Yes| Yes| Yes| Yes| Yes|114k| 400|cpu
FUSION       | Yes| No | Yes| Yes| Yes| No | Yes| Yes| Yes|    | 300|
IBM  V1.1    | Yes| Yes| Yes| Yes| No | Yes| Yes| Yes| Yes| 90k| 200|cpu
KA9Q         | No | No | Yes| Yes| No | No | Yes| Yes| Yes|    |   0|
MIT          | Yes| No | Yes| No | No | No | No | Yes| Yes|    |  50|site
NCSA         | No | No | Yes| No | Yes| No | Yes| Yes| Yes|    |   0|
Stanford 3.0 | No | Yes| Yes| Yes| Yes| No | Yes| Yes| Yes|    | 100|site
SUN PC-NFS   | No | No | Yes| No | Yes| No | Yes| Yes| Yes| 51k| 395|cpu
UB           |    |    | Yes| No | No | No | Yes| Yes| Yes|    | 495|cpu
WIN/TCP 3.2  | Yes| No | Yes| Yes| Yes| No | Yes| Yes| Yes|200k| 395|cpu

    The "max FTP" column is for the fastest FTP to a Pc (*not* from)
seen by a user (in Kbytes/sec).  It makes no difference in this table
which machine was at the other end (obviously the faster the machine
at the other end - the better).

    The  following  table  lists  the  most  popular  Ethernet cards
available and whether the Pc/Ip implementation works with the stated
card.

Vendor      3com  Excelan  Inter   UB    WD   3Com  UB NIC  3com  MICOM
            3C501 EXOS205  NI5010 2273A 8003  3C523  PS/2   3C503 NI5210
-----------+-----+--------+------+-----+-----+-----+------+------+------+
Beame      | Yes |  No    |  No  | No  |     |     |      |      |
Cornell    | Yes |  No    |  No  | No  | No  | No  | No   | No   | No
CMU        | Yes |  No    |  Yes | No  | No  | No  | No   | No   | No
Excelan    | No  |  Yes   |  No  | No  | No  | No  | No   |      |
FTP        | Yes |  Yes   |  Yes | Yes | Yes | No  | No   | Yes  | Yes
FUSION     | Yes |  No    |  Yes | No  | Yes | No  | No   |      |
IBM        | Yes |  No    |  No  | Yes | No  | No  | Yes  | No   | No
KA9Q       | Yes |  No    |  No  | No  | No  | No  | No   |      |
MIT        | Yes |  No    |  Yes | No  | No  | No  | No   |      |
NCSA       | Yes |  No    |  No  | Yes | No  | No  | No   | No   | Yes
Stanford   | Yes |  No    |  No  | No  | Yes | Yes |      | Yes  |
Sun        | Yes |  No    |  Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No   | Yes  | Yes
UB         | No  |  Yes   |  No  | Yes | No  | No  | Yes  |      |
WIN/TCP 3.2| Yes |  No    |  Yes | No  | No  | Yes | No   | Yes  | No

    This table is  called the "Nice  to Have" table.   The functions
listed  here  are  not  mandatory   but  are  useful  in  a   Tcp/Ip
environment:

            domn time fing whoi NFS  gate srce Net- ping SLIP
Vendor      name srvr                way  code BIOS
            srvr                               1001
-----------+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
Beame      | Yes| Yes| Yes| No |    |    |    |    | Yes| No |    |    |
Cornell    |  No|  No|  No| No | No | No | No | No | Yes| No |    |    |
CMU        | Yes| Yes| Yes| No | No | No | Yes| No | Yes| Yes|    |    |
Excelan    | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | Yes| No | No |    |    |
FTP        | Yes| Yes| Yes| Yes| No | Yes| No | No | Yes| Yes|    |    |
FUSION     | No | Yes| Yes| Yes| No | No | Yes| No | Yes| No |    |    |
IBM        | Yes| Yes| Yes| Yes| No | Yes| Yes| No | Yes| No |    |    |
KA9Q       | No | No | No | No | No | Yes| Yes| No | Yes| Yes|    |    |
MIT        | Yes| Yes| Yes| Yes| No | No | Yes| No | Yes| No |    |    |
NCSA       | Yes| No | No | No | No | Yes| Yes|    | Yes| No |    |    |
Stanford   | No | Yes| Yes| Yes| No | No | No |    | Yes| No |    |    |
Sun        | Yes| No | No | No | Yes| No | No | No | Yes| Yes|    |    |
UB         | Yes| No |    |    | No | Yes| No | Yes| Yes| No |    |    |
Wollongong | No | No | No | No | No | Yes| No | No | Yes| No |    |    |

FTP Software is OEMed to BICC Data Networks, Fibronics, Proteon, cisco,
Spider Systems, MICOM-Interlan, Scope, Univation and Western Digital.

ROMKEY@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU (John Romkey) (05/10/88)

I had the impression that the "must have" chart was a list of things that
people REALLY wanted in their TCP/IP implementations, and not associated
with the required protocols listed in RFC's.
						- john
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oconnor@SCCGATE.SCC.COM ("Michael J. O'Connor") (05/11/88)

I also viewed the scorecard as a list of user preferences and not a rehash
of the "official" requirements.

		Mike

kzm@TWG.COM (Keith McCloghrie) (05/20/88)

Mike,

> I also viewed the scorecard as a list of user preferences and not a rehash
> of the "official" requirements.

I wasn't trying to be difficult, and I wasn't suggesting that POP be
deleted from the list, just moved to the Nice-to-Have category (which
Hank sent me a note to say he was considering).  It just seemed like 
users should be warned about the status of POP, in that it is not an
official standard, like all the other "Must have" protocols (and even 
Finger and Whois) are.  

Also, as a point of information, the IETF has a working group which is
preparing an RFC on the requirements for Host implementations of TCP/IP.
It will be the Host equivalent of RFC-1009 (the gateway requirements 
spec.).  One thing that has been suggested is that as well as all the
text, it also have a checklist containing all the items of conformance 
within each protocol.  James Van Bokkelen has been contributing as well
as Dave Crocker and myself, so the PC vendors are well-represented.

Keith.