[comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc] Ether terminal software

rdp@pbseps.UUCP (Richard Perlman) (08/01/88)

We are looking for an MS-DOS terminal program to allow PCs to
access a TCP/IP host over ethernet.  We are not looking for file
sharing (we will be using PC-NFS where that is required).  All
that is required is the ability to set-up a terminal session
(preferable with vt-100 emulation)

Our installation is comprised of the following:
	Sequent Symmetry (4 processors)
	IBM-XT & Compatible (a few ATs) PCs with WD8003E Ether Boards
	Cheapernet (Thin-wire)

Advance apologies if I have missed a recent dicussion on this
topic.  If that is the case, could someone forward the relevent
postings to me.


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spage%polar@Sun.COM (S Page Sun Mtn View windows writer/engineer 336-2410) (08/02/88)

>>  We are looking for an MS-DOS terminal program to allow PCs to
>>  access a TCP/IP host over ethernet.  We are not looking for file
>>  sharing (we will be using PC-NFS where that is required).  All
>>  that is required is the ability to set-up a terminal session
>>  (preferable with vt-100 emulation)

PC-NFS includes a built-in VT-100 type emulator.  This allows the user to
login to a host via the Ethernet or the PC RS-232C com port using the
Telnet and TCP/IP protocols.

I believe the Telnet program can be run as a memory-resident "pop-up"
program.

I don't work with for the division responsible for PC-NFS, I just read the
sales guides.  These are my opinions, not my employer's.

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greg@softway.oz (Greg Rose) (08/04/88)

In article <137@pbseps.UUCP> rdp@pbseps.PacBell.COM (Richard Perlman) writes:
>
>We are looking for an MS-DOS terminal program to allow PCs to
>access a TCP/IP host over ethernet.
Sequent had a broduct called BSS/PC-shells. Unfortunately,
the B means Balance. They use this extensively in house though, so
it may also be available on the Symmetry. You need GEM for the PC, and
preferably a mouse, but then you get multiple windows with ANSI (near
enough for me).
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robert@pvab.UUCP (Robert Claeson) (08/08/88)

In article <137@pbseps.UUCP>, rdp@pbseps.UUCP (Richard Perlman) writes:

> We are looking for an MS-DOS terminal program to allow PCs to
> access a TCP/IP host over ethernet.  We are not looking for file
> sharing (we will be using PC-NFS where that is required).  All
> that is required is the ability to set-up a terminal session
> (preferable with vt-100 emulation)

First, Sun's PC-NFS includes a VT100 telnet. Second, if you're looking
for a more fancy emulation, I believe there's a company in Sweden who has
ported the Reflection 2 and 2+ to use telnet with PC-NFS 3.0.

ronc@cerebus.UUCP (Ronald O. Christian) (08/23/88)

In article <481@softway.oz> greg@softway.oz (Greg Rose) writes:
>In article <137@pbseps.UUCP> rdp@pbseps.PacBell.COM (Richard Perlman) writes:
>>
>>We are looking for an MS-DOS terminal program to allow PCs to
>>access a TCP/IP host over ethernet.
>Sequent had a broduct called BSS/PC-shells. Unfortunately,
>the B means Balance. They use this extensively in house though, so
>it may also be available on the Symmetry. You need GEM for the PC, and
>preferably a mouse, but then you get multiple windows with ANSI (near
>enough for me).

We have PC-Shells.  It's a toy.  First off, it doesn't support Ethernet,
it does packet switching over a com port.  This tends to make it pretty
slow.  Secondly, it's not really a supported product.  If someone would
come out with a product with the functionality of PC-Shells, but supported
VT220 emulation and worked over Ethernet under Microsoft Windows or X-Windows,
they'd really have something.  (Anyone want to start a company?  :-))

You would be better off trying one of the multitude of TCP/IP solutions
out there for the PC.  I have a list of a dozen or so that will do the
job.  Off the top of my head:  PC-NFS from Sun, PC/TCP from FTP Software,
and Fusion from Network Research.  We have several copies of PC-NFS running
here, and the only complaint I have is the lack of function keys in the
ANSI emulation.  (They support four, and we need a lot more than that.
Twenty would be nice.)  FTP Software is working on a VT220 emulation for
their PC/TCP.  We are waiting with bated breath.  If Sun doesn't expand
the capabilities of their terminal emulation, we may drop PC-NFS in favor
of the FTP Software product.


				Ron
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jbvb@VAX.FTP.COM (James Van Bokkelen) (08/24/88)

Our VT220 will ship with v2.03, due out in early September.  It will support
VT52 and VT100 mode, print screen, multiple sessions (with different emulations
on each), 8-bit mode with hosts that can hack the Telnet Binary option
and down-loadable function keys (but not down-loadable character sets).
It may have more features, we're still tinkering.  Beta sites like it...

James VanBokkelen
FTP Software Inc.