[comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc] NEED Network for AT&T and IBM computers running Unix and DOS

greggt@VAX1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Gregg Thompson) (02/21/89)

PLEASE REPLY VIA MAIL, PLEASE DO NOT WASTE "BANDWITH" ON DISCUSSING THIS MESSAGE

I have been asked by a government organization to do some consulting for
them.  They need to set up a network so I thought I would ask here (Usenet)
first to start.

PLEASE reply to me AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.  They need the information and prices
for the network soon so they can bring it up in the next "network committee"
meeting next month.

EMAIL:		greggt@vax1.cc.uakron.edu or greggt@[130.101.2.2]
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I need to network the following type of configuration:


AT&T 6386
3B2
IBM PC/XT
(Maybe a Macintosh or Sun 386i need something for Desktop Publishing that will
network easily with TCP/IP.  Any DP WYSIWYG (as you are typing) for the Sun
386i??? Will NeXT sell to local, state, and federal gonvernment agencies?)
All of the machines have at least a 20 megs.

I need to have a network that will support TCP/IP AND NFS so that ALL the
hard disks in the above list will be shared on both DOS and Unix levels.  There
will also be a need of allowing DOS and Unix to "access each other" in the
sense of Unix must be allowed to access DOS data files and DOS must access
data files on Unix.

The 386 will be running both Unix and DOS if possible (preferred) and we need
the ability for the PC to telnet to the Unix "server" (the 386 or 3B2).

The network will start off with at least one or 2 of each of the above list
and will eventually be networked with several other "offices" of the same
configuration and then eventually networked to Internet.

The Unix operating system is from AT&T SYSV.
NEED NETWORK! Cards and software for Unix and DOS!

			Thank You!!
			GRegg
P.S. They will eventually need the desktop publishing soon too.

-- 
To live is to die, to die is to live forever;			GRegg Thompson
Where will you spend eternity?			     greggt@vax1.cc.uakron.edu

snorthc@RELAY.NSWC.NAVY.MIL (02/21/89)

In response to "GRegg Thompson's" request:

1.) I am replying by EMAIL, there is no waste of bandwidth, many of
us face similar requirements and can use the info.

2.) Unless I missed something obvious... you have already decided
on TCP and NFS.

3.) If 2 then the question is simply which vendors: 
	- for MSDOS I think the only game in town is SUN PC NFS, I wish
there was an option, I detest single source products.
	- for the 3B2... I am no expert on SYS V, but I would start
with Wollongong and Lachman.  That Air Force contract might have
stimulated some 3B2 development (AFCACs or some such).
	- for the ATT box, I know western bell sells an NFS for
UNIX SYS V rel. 3.2 try calling 1 800 for unix.
	- MACs can be NFS'd with the gator box, I am sure there is
a more elegant solution somewhere.

NFS could care less if the file is a DOS or UNIX file so sharing disks
in one sense is trivial.  File naming can be sticky, but what are a
few tildes among friends?  PC NFS is client only, you will have to share
those PCs "virtual disk".

The bigger issue will be administration.  Solutions like Novell, allow
for administration.  This can be very important to novice users (keep
them in a menu shell).  It has security implications, will you require
audit trails???

Trivia:
Will next sell to gov't agencies?  We have all read that they won't,
but I suspect this is subject to change if universities do not overwhelm
them with orders.

Desktop publishing... that is a sw question.  Aldus Pagemaker is
tolerable and can (sort of) interchange files PC <-> MAC.

Good luck, let us know how your solution works out.

Stephen Northcutt (snorthc@relay.navy.mil)
Disclaimer: I speak only for Stephen, am not in bed with any vendor.

jbvb@VAX.FTP.COM (James Van Bokkelen) (02/25/89)

Steve:

We announced our implementation of NFS at the Connectathon last week.  In
addition, Beame & Whiteside had a DOS NFS there also.  Ours should ship
sometime in early April.

For the 3B2, you could also try Spider Systems (U.S. office in Burlington, MA).

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