[comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc] UDP for X86 DOS Machines

billy@VENERA.ISI.EDU (Billy Brackenridge) (06/10/89)

I have used the SUN NFS package, the FTP package and the MIT/CMU code
on several different projects to send UDP datagrams. All packages
support UDP. You may not want to rule out the CMU/MIT PC/IP package.
You can use it commercially. Also if you contact Phil Karn I suspect
you can make an arrangement to use his code at a minimal price.

If your goal it to make a small and simple UDP application use the
MIT/CMU package. Its primary benefit is complete source code in
Microsoft C. If you want to do BSD 4.2 (0 in the host field)
broadcasts you can change the code to do so. I hope you will fix your
broken Unixes instead! I used this package to do a PC based point to
point packet video system. I wouldn't want to do anything more
complicated with it.

I would add that if you want to write your UDP code completely from
scratch it is worth picking up the MIT/CMU package just to look at
and perhaps steal a few routines. UDP and even domain resolution is
pretty simple and you could write your own package from scratch
pretty easily. 

I have also used an early version of FUSION from Network Research to
do a SMTP based voice mail system. SMTP is of course TCP based but
there was support for UDP calls. At the time FUSION was the only
package supporting large model C. FUSION attempted to be close to
Berkeley Unix sockets. I was their first Alpha release. I assume that
5 years has improved the product.

I replaced FUSION with an Alpha release of the FTP software 2.0
Kernel. This was the first software from FTP that supported large
model C. The code was much more reliable than the FUSION code of the
period and the FTP native programmers' interface is superior to a
sockets interface. FTP sent me their sockets interface when they
implemented it, but I never opened the disk. 

From your point of view you may not want to support a TCP kernel just
to do UDP. FTP Software has a stand alone library that allows you to
write lean applications, but I have never used it.

I also have worked for a client who wanted NFS support and AppleTalk
protocols simultaneously. (The AppleTalk was encapsulated in UDP). It
worked but it was ugly. SUN supports a sockets interface. This would
be unacceptable for a commercial product as the SUN legal staff is
impossible to deal with and unless they have changed their policies
do not issue site licenses.

FTP Software now supports NFS through their new Interdrive product.
Old code I developed years ago still works with the newer kernel. 

Of all the companies I have worked with I'd rate FTP first. They can
be expensive, but their technical support, quality of software, and
range of hardware supported is unmatched even if James does flame a
lot on the net. They also seem to have signed a lot of deals with
other companies that have built on their products and still stay
commercially competitive.

I am not the person to ask about a Sockets interface. I suspect there are
others on the net with more experience in this area.