[comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc] Help needed making PC to VAX connection

bundalo@iitmax.IIT.EDU (Predrag S. Bundalo) (07/11/89)

	The subject and Keywords just about explain it all.
	I need some help (info) with connecting my 286 or 386
	to one of the VAXes (a 3600) we have here via an
	EtherNet card and some TCP/IP software.

	I need advice on:

	o	Which card to buy for this particular setup
	o	Which software to buy

	Would software be included with the card by any chance??

	Would I be able to use some of the VAX's resources (such as:
	o	disk drives
	o	9-trak tape drives
	o	DEC Compactape II
	o	Gigatapedrives), or am I pushing it?

	BTW, the VAX is running WIN TCP/IP and has an Ethernet connection.

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  Predrag S. Bundalo                  BITNET:  SYSPredrag@IITVax.edu.BITNET 
  IIT Vax Systems Staff               UseNet:  bundalo@iitmax.iit.EDU 
  Academic Computing Center
  Chicago, Illinois

jbvb@VAX.FTP.COM (James Van Bokkelen) (07/14/89)

   Date: 10 Jul 89 21:24:39 GMT
   From: "Predrag S. Bundalo" <zeek!spl1!iitmax!bundalo@uunet.uu.net>

	   The subject and Keywords just about explain it all.
	   I need some help (info) with connecting my 286 or 386
	   to one of the VAXes (a 3600) we have here via an
	   EtherNet card and some TCP/IP software.

	   I need advice on:

	   o	Which card to buy for this particular setup

The "3rd generation" cards all share a similar architecture: smart LAN
controller chip but no processor, 8K to 64K of on-board RAM buffer,
usually memory mapped (DMA or programmed I/O is usually a speed
disadvantage).  These include U-B PC/NIC, Interlan NI5210/NI9210, 3Com
3C503 and 3C523, W-D WD8003 family, AT&T NAU family, clones of the
Nat. Semi. DP839EB (Novell NE-1000, D-Link), Acer, Gateway, Tiara,
IMC Networks, etc.  This is in my experience the cheapest and fastest
architecture, with raw TCP speeds in excess of 300Kb/sec on 386 hosts.
The lowest cost I've seen advertised is $220 or so for the WD8003 (a
distributor's ad in PC Week), but Novell has recently announced rather
low prices for the NE-1000.

	   o	Which software to buy

Depends on what you need: Everyone has Telnet and FTP clients; not everyone has
FTP servers, PING, TN3270, TAR/RMT, Berkeley R-utilities or SMTP support.  Some
vendors offer NFS and/or RFC 1001/1002 NETBIOS support.  Some vendors support
more boards than others.  Some offer interface sharing with Netware and/or
VINES and/or 3Plus.  Some don't bother with the Domain Name system, or IP
subnets, or ICMP redirect routing.

	   Would software be included with the card by any chance??

Some of our OEMs (W-D, AT&T, Interlan) bundle PC/TCP with their cards.
NRC sells Fusion bundled with a WD8003.  TWG, 3Com, IBM and Sun offer
hardware with their packages.  Excelan, U-B, CMC, Interlan and 3Com/Bridge
intelligent cards come with software, too.

	   Would I be able to use some of the VAX's resources (such as:
	   o	disk drives

With a DOS NFS client, and VMS support, you can use the Vax's disks like
your own.  Otherwise, you need to use FTP to move files back and forth
individually.

	   o	9-trak tape drives
	   o	DEC Compactape II
	   o	Gigatapedrives), or am I pushing it?

With TGV TCP/IP and our TAR/RMT, you could do backups.  Otherwise, you
can only use it indirectly, via FTP and logging in to the Vax.

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