syackey@secola.Columbia.NCR.COM (Steve Yackey) (07/21/89)
Is there any{body, product, thing} that lets you do NetWare stuff
using internet (DoD) protocols ?
Like:
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Thanxmorgan@Jessica.stanford.edu (RL "Bob" Morgan) (07/22/89)
> Is there any{body, product, thing} that lets you do NetWare stuff > using internet (DoD) protocols ? > > _________________________________________________________________ > | | | > | udp | netware core protocol (ncp) stuff | > |_____________|__________________________________________________| I think Novell has to do it, at least for the PC client and the NetWare server. Other people may do it for Portable Netware for Unix and other boxes. I believe that some people at Novell have allowed as how it would make sense . . . - RL "Bob" Morgan Networking Systems Stanford
ljm@TWG.COM (Leo J McLaughlin) (07/22/89)
For a number of years now, Novell has been promising to open up their protocol stack in much the same way as Microsoft did (attempted to do) with LAN Manager. The latest article I saw was about three months ago (LAN Times) and predicted a projected delivery date about end of 1990. enjoy, leo j mclaughlin iii Project Manager The Wollongong Group ljm@twg.com
jbvb@VAX.FTP.COM (James Van Bokkelen) (07/24/89)
I don't know of anyone who has encapsulated Netware IPX inside UDP, but it shouldn't be too awfully hard, given access to raw-net-level on the translating nodes. jbvb
ljm@TWG.COM (Leo J McLaughlin) (07/25/89)
>Novell has released the spec for the ODI (Open Driver Interface) that >supports protocols other than the Novell stack (IPX,SPX etc). The spec is >available from Novell now. The first system software to actually use that >spec for drivers is the 386 Netware which has been announced by them to be >available by end of 1989 (recollection of actual announcement). Unfortunately, it merely allows other protocol stacks to use the same physical interface as IPX -- a capability supported by Wollongong, FTP software, and probably others for some time (albeit on a small number of high demand cards). The last published release projection I've seen for the full Novell Open Protocol Interface allowing Netware to be run over TCP/UDP/IP and TP4/CLNP was hoping for end of 1990. enjoy, leo j mclaughlin iii Project Manager The Wollongong Group ljm@twg.com
acm@RELAY.PROTEON.COM (07/25/89)
For a number of years now, Novell has been promising to open up their
protocol stack in much the same way as Microsoft did (attempted to
do) with LAN Manager. The latest article I saw was about three
months ago (LAN Times) and predicted a projected delivery date about
end of 1990.
leo j mclaughlin iii
Novell has released the spec for the ODI (Open Driver Interface) that
supports protocols other than the Novell stack (IPX,SPX etc). The spec is
available from Novell now. The first system software to actually use that
spec for drivers is the 386 Netware which has been announced by them to be
available by end of 1989 (recollection of actual announcement).
-Alan Marshall, VP Proteon Inc.
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tel: (508)898-2120 MHS: acm @ ProteonWtom@rsp.UUCP (Thomas Ruf) (07/27/89)
jbvb@VAX.FTP.COM (James Van Bokkelen) writes: >I don't know of anyone who has encapsulated Netware IPX inside UDP, but >it shouldn't be too awfully hard, given access to raw-net-level on the >translating nodes. I know of someone :-) We provide both an IPX over UDP driver, as well as an IP gateway that uses an IPX-only-internet as "subnet". -- Thomas Ruf Schneider & Koch GmbH {uunet,mcvax}!unido!rsp!tom West-Germany
snorthc@RELAY.NSWC.NAVY.MIL (07/31/89)
> I know of someone :-) > We provide both an IPX over UDP driver, as well as an IP gateway that > uses an IPX-only-internet as "subnet". > Thomas Ruf Schneider & Koch GmbH > {uunet,mcvax}!unido!rsp!tom West-Germany Sounds great, would you be willing to provide us with some more details? We have Novells out in the world as subnets, and an IP only backbone. The Novells had promised they would never need the backbone, but of course they do. So if you have a hack that works, PLEASE let us know everything: - how it works; - Hardware/Software req'd; - Cost/Part Numbers/Addresses/Points of Contact. I suspect this is of general interest to the net, since the question comes up every six months or so, but if you wish to reply directly to me: mail Stephen Northcutt E41, Naval Surface Warfare Center DAHLGREN VA 22448 phone 703 663 7855 e-mail snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil "No, not that button!" Wargames