NETMGR@GRPATVX1.BITNET (Kostas Karanassios - Network Manager) (08/25/89)
Hello everybody,
we are planning to connect a Novell Netware Ethernet to an Ethernet 802.3
backbone via TCP/IP protocols and we really need your help. In the following
paragraphs one can find:
A. DESCRIPTION OF OUR NOVELL NETWARE NETWORK
B. DESCRIPTION OF OUR 803.2 ETHERNET BACKBONE
C. WHAT WE WANT TO DO
D. ONE POSSIBLE SOLUTION (???)
E. QUESTIONS THAT HAVE TO BE ANSWERED
Well ... let's start:
A. DESCRIPTION OF OUR NOVELL NETWARE NETWORK:
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A.1: Advance Netware 286 V2.0a (soon V2.1x)
A.2: 1 x COMPAQ DESKPRO 386 (dedicated file server):
+ CPU: 80386 / 16 MHz (AT-compatible)
+ Memory: 1 MB RAM (up to 14 MB), 128 KB ROM
+ 1 x Hard Disk: 40 MB
+ 1 x Floppy disk: 1.2 MB
+ 1 x Novell Netware Ethernet card (NE-1000)
A.3: 8 x Santa Clara Systems (SCS) PCterminal (Novell Diskless Workstations):
+ CPU: 8088-2 / 4.77 MHz - 8 MHz (XT-compatible)
+ Memory: 640 KB RAM, 64 KB ROM
+ 1 x Floppy disk: 360 KB
+ 1 x Novell Netware Ethernet card (NE-1000)
with Remote Reset PROM (as to boot the workstation
without using a floppy diskette)
A.3: The 8 workstations and the file server are connected via
a Thin Ethernet Cable:
+-------+ +-------+ +-------+ +=============+
| WS 1 | | WS 2 | ... | WS 8 | | File Server |
+---|---+ +---|---+ +---|---+ +===|=========+
O-===--------===--------------------===-------------===-O
Thin Ethernet Cable
B. DESCRIPTION OF OUR 803.2 ETHERNET BACKBONE:
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A Thick Ethernet Cable which connects over 30 machines (running 4.3 BSD Unix,
SunOS, VAX/VMS, VM/SP etc.) via TCP/IP protocols.
C. WHAT WE WANT TO DO:
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*** CONNECT THE NETWORK OF (A) TO THAT OF (B) VIA TCP/IP PROTOCOLS ***
*** AND GIVE NETWARE USERS THE CAPABILITY OF TELNETing/FTPing ***
*** OTHER TCP/IP HOSTS (RUNNING NETWARE AND TCP/IP NETWORKING SYSTEMS ***
*** IN PARALLEL) WITHOUT LOADING THE 802.3 ETHERNET BACKBONE WITH ***
*** NETWARE PACKETS. ***
D. ONE POSSIBLE SOLUTION (???):
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D.1 Put a second Ethernet card into the Novell dedicated file server
and connect it to the 802.3 Ethernet backbone.
D.2 Install a Public Domain TCP/IP networking system (we already have
both KA9Q and NCSA 2.2) on the file server.
D.3 Install BYU's system that allows Novell's Netware to share the network
adapter card in a PC workstation with the TCP/IP networking system.
D.4 Configure the File Server act as a Bridge of TCP/IP packets between
the Thin Ethernet segment and the 802.3 backbone.
D.5 Give Netware users the capability of TELNETing/FTPing other TCP/IP
hosts on the 802.3 Ethernet backbone.
E. QUESTIONS THAT HAVE TO BE ANSWERED:
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E.1 Is solution (D) a possible one ? If not, how should we accomplish (C) ?
E.2 If solution (D) is a possible one:
E.2.1 Where can we find (if exists) a Packet Driver for NE-1000 cards ?
If such a Driver not exists could somebody give us directions as
to write one ?
E.2.2 As far as the Bridging is concerned:
E.2.2.1 Internal or External Bridging should be adopted ?
E.2.2.2 What about the Bridging software ? Shall we buy
a separate product or Netware V2.1x does what we
want ?
E.2.3 How can we obtain the BYU's system (as to work out D.3) ? We have
only BITNET access. We have already tried Clarkson's Mail Server
but we never got a responce. Could somebody send it to us ?
E.2.4 Should we increase the File Server's RAM ?
I would appreciate any help. Please, send answers directly to me.
If somebody else is interested in the results let me know and
I'll e-mail to him as soon as I become ready.
Thank you in advance,
Kostas.
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+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+jbvb@VAX.FTP.COM (James Van Bokkelen) (08/25/89)
As things are right now, there are two ways you can get TCP/IP access from the workstations: 1. Via the Interlan server-based gateway product (add-in board in the server). 2. Via the Wollongong IP-over-NETBIOS and a separate PC with two network interfaces. In either case, the Netware thin Ethernet could either be connected directly to the backbone, or left separate (the netware traffic really won't have much impact on a backbone with only 30 hosts, but the backbone could have an effect on the Netware people if your Suns are paging over the net). You could use the BYU Netware if 1) you were willing to boot your workstations from the floppy, instead of over the net, and 2) if there were a Packet Driver for the NE1000 (I don't know of one), but it would require that the Netware cable be bridged onto the backbone cable. If your Netware vendor was willing to build a Packet Driver into IPX.COM (like Interlan, Schneider & Koch, Hughes LAN Systems, IMC Networks and others have), you could continue to boot the workstations over the net. In either case, the Packet Driver gives you a fairly wide choice of p-d and commercial TCP/IP packages. James B. VanBokkelen 26 Princess St., Wakefield, MA 01880 FTP Software Inc. voice: (617) 246-0900 fax: (617) 246-0901